hi
I am in need of an accessible audio editing app for mac, not like a DAW (I use Logic for that), but for editing audio for, say, a podcast.
What do people use in 2019? I'm trying out Amadeus Pro. Is that still the prefered choice?
From my experience, Reaper is the best app for just about any audio, no matter the platform. However, I only use it in Windows, but there are plenty of mac users over at the blind reaper mailing list that would be happy to give you more info. https://groups.io/g/rwp/topics
Also, the Reaper accessibility wiki is a great resource. https://reaperaccessibility.com/index.php/Main_Page
Yes, I know that Reaper is a DAW, and you said you don't want a DAW, however,
It will make your life much much much better if you use a tool that does non-destructive audio, Amadeus Pro is a destructive audio tool.
Reaper is only 60 bucks, which is an amazing price, the same as Amadeus Pro, from what I remember.
Don't get me wrong, I used Amadeus Pro to create lots of audio projects, podcasts to be specific, back in the day. It was ok for what it was. Even though I do music now, I find myself thinking, man I wish I had Reaper to do podcasting back in the day.
Hi, I've been asked to use Audacity for work. As far as I can tell from the Audacity website, there's no current accessible version. Does anyone know of a good equivalent that, when I submit my content, they will be able to upload into Audacity please?
Hi guys
Thanks a lot for the input!
@Tree I hadn't thought of Reaper. I'll definitely give that a spin!
I was a bit unclear, really. If Reaper will allow me to do great audio editing, I have no problems with it also being a DAW. I just find Logic unwieldy for granular audio editing, though that could very well be me missing something.
I also hadn't considered your point about Amadeus Pro being a destructive editor, I'll definitely take that into account.
@Oliver Kennett Very cool. I'd heard of landr for AI-based mastering, but never used it. I'll have to look into that.
@Kate Indeed. It seems that the new versions aren't accessible, and even though the old, accessible one is available, this is a dealbreaker for me.
Regarding import, I suppose you could export the tracks out of your preferred audio editor, and the people you work with could reimport them. That would kill project metadata and undo history and such, though.
@Fenrir Destructive editing means that the editor edits the data of the original audio file, as opposed to just editing its playback parameters and finalising the edits when rendering.
I can't speak to Mac Accessibility, but on Windows, Reaper is a beautiful thing. It's both a highly versatile and customizable DAW as well as a very easy-to use audio editer. (I didn't even know a DAW couldn't be a good audio editer.) Reaper can either be really simple or incredibly complex depending on what you are doing with it, but I haven't encountered a single thing it can't do so far. Before it, I was using Audacity - again on the PC. While Audacity is free, it's not as accessible -though there are work-arounds to some of its less accessible features) I actually thought it was supposed to be accessible on the MAC, but that was six years ago. I guess try them both out and see what you think. If you do use reaper though, you'll need OSARA, which is the accessibility extention for Reaper. There's also the Reaper Blog, Reaper Blog Youtube channel and Reaper Mania Youtube Channel for great tutorials. Reaper Mania is amazing, though unfortunately not all that descriptive if you're totally blind.
A DAW - Digital Audio Workstation is a program that one can use to record, edit and manipulate audio tracks, be they something you create yourself or import from another location. I for instance create a lot of music and audio theatre, and a DAW helps me do that. I can compile instruments all on their own tracks and make a complete song, or add a track of music, ambiance, sound effects and dialog all to create audio theatre. As for why a DAW might not be helpful for editing, that largely depends on one's experience. I have used three: Sony Sound Forge, Audacity and Reaper in that order. Sound Forge is a DAW and it's really great with single track editing, but not at all good for multi-track editing. That's using more than one audio file to create a whole greater than the sum of its parts. Audacity is a great and free DAW, but accessibly limited when it comes to editing. I haven't used a lot of others, but imagine their ability to edit accessibly would vary.
Great. If you're going to use Reaper, please also save yourself the stress and utilize the following:
Manuals: Reaper User's Guide, and ReaFX Guide. They are free, and the latter outlines all the differenct FX plug-ins that come stock with Reaper, of which there are a lot. You could also get the ReaMix, which you have to pay a little for, but it's a great book outlining how to do mixing in Reaper.
The Reapers Without Peapers mailing list for visually impaired users of Reaper - forum I myself still need to join come to think of it.
OSARA, the extention I mentioned for making reaper accessible.
The Reaper Blog, both video and written. The Reaper Mania Youtube channel too if you can understand his instructions without seeing what he's doing.
Please note, Reaper is free to evaluate with full functionality for I think a couple months. After that it's $60, though you can always hit "still evaluating" when the start screen comes up to continue using it. It's a great program and should be supported though if you have the money.
Hi
Very cool, thanks for the resources!
Indeed. I'm going to start evaluating it this weekend. I agree, at such a price and with such excellent licensing terms, I'd love to support the developer too.
Hi, I need to do audio editing to submit audio content for radio broadcasts. I know almost nothing about editing audio content, so can't work out which program I need or even how to use it. Is there a basic guide to audio editing? I guess what I'm doing would be single track, just interviews with some atmosphere? I've tried Reaper, today, and can't even work out how to import audio files from Voice Record Pro, just as a gage of how difficult I'm finding this. Have a deadline for next week and very much need help if anyone can please. Thanks.
defenetly amadeus pro for me. I tried reaper, but I feel amadeus is best. I particularly like that you can literality open a audio file and start editing without having to create a new project and then import files. Its really a matter of personal preference as of which audio editor to use. I'm more for amadeus. A good resource to start learning amadeus is become a amadeus pro maestro
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Reaper
From my experience, Reaper is the best app for just about any audio, no matter the platform. However, I only use it in Windows, but there are plenty of mac users over at the blind reaper mailing list that would be happy to give you more info.
https://groups.io/g/rwp/topics
Also, the Reaper accessibility wiki is a great resource.
https://reaperaccessibility.com/index.php/Main_Page
Yes, I know that Reaper is a DAW, and you said you don't want a DAW, however,
It will make your life much much much better if you use a tool that does non-destructive audio, Amadeus Pro is a destructive audio tool.
Reaper is only 60 bucks, which is an amazing price, the same as Amadeus Pro, from what I remember.
Don't get me wrong, I used Amadeus Pro to create lots of audio projects, podcasts to be specific, back in the day. It was ok for what it was. Even though I do music now, I find myself thinking, man I wish I had Reaper to do podcasting back in the day.
Good luck
Destructive audio tool
Sorry Tree, what do you mean by saying that Amadeus is a destructive audio tool?
Thanks!
Audacity
Hi, I've been asked to use Audacity for work. As far as I can tell from the Audacity website, there's no current accessible version. Does anyone know of a good equivalent that, when I submit my content, they will be able to upload into Audacity please?
Hi guys
Hi guys
Thanks a lot for the input!
@Tree I hadn't thought of Reaper. I'll definitely give that a spin!
I was a bit unclear, really. If Reaper will allow me to do great audio editing, I have no problems with it also being a DAW. I just find Logic unwieldy for granular audio editing, though that could very well be me missing something.
I also hadn't considered your point about Amadeus Pro being a destructive editor, I'll definitely take that into account.
@Oliver Kennett Very cool. I'd heard of landr for AI-based mastering, but never used it. I'll have to look into that.
@Kate Indeed. It seems that the new versions aren't accessible, and even though the old, accessible one is available, this is a dealbreaker for me.
Regarding import, I suppose you could export the tracks out of your preferred audio editor, and the people you work with could reimport them. That would kill project metadata and undo history and such, though.
@Fenrir Destructive editing means that the editor edits the data of the original audio file, as opposed to just editing its playback parameters and finalising the edits when rendering.
Best
Malthe
Another for Reaper
I can't speak to Mac Accessibility, but on Windows, Reaper is a beautiful thing. It's both a highly versatile and customizable DAW as well as a very easy-to use audio editer. (I didn't even know a DAW couldn't be a good audio editer.) Reaper can either be really simple or incredibly complex depending on what you are doing with it, but I haven't encountered a single thing it can't do so far. Before it, I was using Audacity - again on the PC. While Audacity is free, it's not as accessible -though there are work-arounds to some of its less accessible features) I actually thought it was supposed to be accessible on the MAC, but that was six years ago. I guess try them both out and see what you think. If you do use reaper though, you'll need OSARA, which is the accessibility extention for Reaper. There's also the Reaper Blog, Reaper Blog Youtube channel and Reaper Mania Youtube Channel for great tutorials. Reaper Mania is amazing, though unfortunately not all that descriptive if you're totally blind.
DAW
I know I can look this up elsewhere, but since we're on topic, what is a DAW, and why may a DAW not be a good audio editor? Just interest. Thanks all.
Digital Audio Workstation
A DAW - Digital Audio Workstation is a program that one can use to record, edit and manipulate audio tracks, be they something you create yourself or import from another location. I for instance create a lot of music and audio theatre, and a DAW helps me do that. I can compile instruments all on their own tracks and make a complete song, or add a track of music, ambiance, sound effects and dialog all to create audio theatre. As for why a DAW might not be helpful for editing, that largely depends on one's experience. I have used three: Sony Sound Forge, Audacity and Reaper in that order. Sound Forge is a DAW and it's really great with single track editing, but not at all good for multi-track editing. That's using more than one audio file to create a whole greater than the sum of its parts. Audacity is a great and free DAW, but accessibly limited when it comes to editing. I haven't used a lot of others, but imagine their ability to edit accessibly would vary.
Thanks a lot guys! It sounds
Thanks a lot guys! It sounds like Reaper is the perfect tool for me.
Best
Malthe
If Reaper
Great. If you're going to use Reaper, please also save yourself the stress and utilize the following:
Manuals: Reaper User's Guide, and ReaFX Guide. They are free, and the latter outlines all the differenct FX plug-ins that come stock with Reaper, of which there are a lot. You could also get the ReaMix, which you have to pay a little for, but it's a great book outlining how to do mixing in Reaper.
The Reapers Without Peapers mailing list for visually impaired users of Reaper - forum I myself still need to join come to think of it.
OSARA, the extention I mentioned for making reaper accessible.
The Reaper Blog, both video and written. The Reaper Mania Youtube channel too if you can understand his instructions without seeing what he's doing.
Please note, Reaper is free to evaluate with full functionality for I think a couple months. After that it's $60, though you can always hit "still evaluating" when the start screen comes up to continue using it. It's a great program and should be supported though if you have the money.
Happy Reaping.
Hi
Hi
Very cool, thanks for the resources!
Indeed. I'm going to start evaluating it this weekend. I agree, at such a price and with such excellent licensing terms, I'd love to support the developer too.
Best
Malthe
still struggling
Hi, I need to do audio editing to submit audio content for radio broadcasts. I know almost nothing about editing audio content, so can't work out which program I need or even how to use it. Is there a basic guide to audio editing? I guess what I'm doing would be single track, just interviews with some atmosphere? I've tried Reaper, today, and can't even work out how to import audio files from Voice Record Pro, just as a gage of how difficult I'm finding this. Have a deadline for next week and very much need help if anyone can please. Thanks.
amadeus
defenetly amadeus pro for me. I tried reaper, but I feel amadeus is best. I particularly like that you can literality open a audio file and start editing without having to create a new project and then import files. Its really a matter of personal preference as of which audio editor to use. I'm more for amadeus. A good resource to start learning amadeus is become a amadeus pro maestro
https://mosen.org/become-an-amadeus-pro-maestro/
Hth and good luck.
become a amadeus pro
Is this document still good for the current version? I think this document is 5 years old, unless it has been updated.