Hello there.
First, let me wish everyone a wonderful new year 2018 full of everything you wish to yourself and the ones you love.
I have a suggestion to make about text editing on the iPhone, but before I submit it to Apple, I would like to know how it sounds to you.
This came to my mind because of series numerous mistakes. Even in the quietest environment, and the sad but indisputable fact that I end up spending more time editing series mistakes than the time it makes me win in the first place.
If the mistake appears at the end of a word, it’s no big deal, I can leave the rotor in word mode, go to the word’s end, and replace the wrong characters.
But I often find situations where I want to correct things that are not at the end of a word, could be anywhere, and I need to alternate between word and character navigation. Doing this with the rotor is cumbersome. On the other hand, in an editing text field, the left and right swipe with one finger gesture only swipes through available letters on the keyboard which I find pretty useless. How about replacing this by swiping by letters in the text itself? You could then leave the rotor in word mode and navigate by letters by swiping horizontally
I think it could be a huge timesaver. What do you say?
Best regards,
Jean Philippe
Comments
Not sure how that would...
Not sure how well that'd work. Since the letters on the virtual keyboard can be seen by VO, it makes sense that you'd encounter them when you swipe left or right while in an editable text area. There's also the problem of editing passwords. You'd have no idea where you were. The virtual keyboard, and indeed VO itself, would have to be recoded in such a way that the letters were only visible to VO upon touching them, and that could be a problem for someone just learning the layout of that keyboard, especially someone who's relatively new to the land of iOS. Just my thoughts.
Hi Joseph,
Hi Joseph,
I guess this could be made an option for advanced users. You could use this feature once you get familiar with the iOS keyboard couldn’t you?
As for passwords, you usually don’t need to edit them at all.
Cheers,
JP
not sure i like that.
hi, i'm not so sure i want them to mess with things. they work as they are currently. and many of us are now actually quite proficient with switching with the rotor between chars and words. so shifting things around now, would actually slow a lot of us down now, rather than speed us up.
and besides, if you want super fine control, get yourself one of those really small traveling bluetooth keyboards, so you can have it in your pocket or something, and slip it out to quickly use for typing up anything more than a small bit of text if you want.
the downfall of dictation
This is the very reason that iOS Dictation simply cannot be used professionally. Unlike paid software like Dragon, iOS Dictation does not seem to learn vocal characteristics. Though Dictation might be fine for just sending a quick message to someone you know, I would definitely not even think about using it to do any more than that because of the potential for error, and remember that VoiceOver does not always make it clear when there is an error in dictated text.
Remember that using Siri or dictation is not the only way to enter text. You can also use the three different keyboard modes that are available, braille screen input, handwriting input a Bluetooth QWERTY keyboard or a braille keyboard.
Shame that dragon for ios
Shame that dragon for ios never made it except for its free version which is not really accessible.I love the Braille keyboard except that it has issues with French contracted Brailbe yet.IOS onscreen keyboard is my third option. Oh, and i forgot to mention MBraille, my favorite of all, but it doesn't hendel French contracted Braille ither. It's a bit sad to note that no solution is perfect yet.JP
you can use dictation
Hi.
I find you can use dictation for a lot of situations. Granted, it might work better for some more than others. And I think that some situations you cannot use it in I'm sure. I use dictation heavily. Here's a few hacks that I've came up with that I find useful.
1. If I'm dictating something with multiple sentences, I dictate a sentence, stop & have Vo. read that sentence out to me. It can be time-consuming, but it has saved me some misunderstandings & a bit of embarrassment ( time.
2. If there's a word or sentence or anything that has given me trouble when ever I try and dictate it, I'll usually just type it. That goes for something with the keyboard too such as new line.
3. If all else fails, I type and dictate.
These may be time-consumming methods, but ironically, they've saved me time as well as embarrassment. I hope these help, and happy new year!
Is dictation more reliable
Is dictation more reliable than Siri? I'm just about to find out. I'm currently speaking to dictation, and I will see what comes out. Let's hope for the best…
Dictation and making corrections
I noticed that with the speech recognition in Windows 10 these days one does have the ability to review and make corrections using voice input. Hopefully Apple will see the writing on the wall and start to include some facility for making corrections and reviewing input by using voice commands. After all, more and more people are now using dictation as the main input for their phones. This isn't just a feature that the blind use these days.
--Pete
I'm afraid it won't work,
I'm afraid it won't work, because a blind user does not have a way to know the text has been wrongly written until he reads it. So you will be able to correct a mistake if you said something wrong, but not if the application wrote something wrong. JP
I don't trust dictation
I don't care what the program is. One time I used it, it changed it without my realizing it and made it sound like I was soliciting a married friend of mine. I know that was several years ago, but I only use dictation as a last resort.
Keep it as is
I personally find that it's good the way it is. As they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'd say if you want to be more efficient when correcting mistakes, invest in a Braille display or a Bluetooth keyboard, though the Bluetooth keyboard might be cumbersome.
hey Mitchell,
hey Mitchell,
I don't agree with that at all. Apple is not any kind of God by any means. Voice-over is great, but Siri is terrible. And anything can be improved anyway. So why not suggest new ideas, even of they are wrong, they make things move.
JP
Understandable.
I can understand where you come from, JP. But I'm far from saying that Apple is a god. If Apple is a god, than all third-party apps would be made accessible, and has that happened yet? No, and it probably won't. It's great that you even are suggesting new ideas, though. It keeps what can be improved in the focus, rather than things that are perfectly fine which could stray into the focus. All I'm saying is, for me, there doesn't seem to be a problem.