I've been a beta tester for several years now & love it, despite the bugs that come with it.
I can’t wait to see what Apple brings us and watchOS 12. If I decide to go through with it, which I probably will, this will be the first beta that I’ve tested on my new Apple Watch.
Everyone knows the only way to beta test is to dogfood with production data and apps, right? Finally got together the gumption to move my iPhone to the 18.4 RC seed, and what do you know, bugs and bugs and bugs and bugs and bugs! And, of course, we can hardly forget the promised new redesign—that's always something we can count on to be buttery smooth and a guarantee of instant life improvement. Yes? Yes yes? Yes yes yes?
Sigh. But the train must rumble on …
Maybe there'll be some real under-the-bonnet improvements. Especially for macOS, I'd really like that. I still like macOS, despite everything …
I mean, they're yet to deliver most of what they promissed they would the last time around, and what they have have been pretty pointless stuff. Did IOS 18 make my life more productive, efficient or less difficult compared to IOS 17? nope. yet did they fix the under-the-hood stuff? nope there as well. unless they're cooking something up that's really interesting which has not leaked and that can roll out instantly, not excited. Design changes? yes, interesting and I definitely will try the betas out, but I don't know if it'll make my life any more productive...
Trust but verify Now I do not trust Apple to tell me the true, so I will wait. They need to appoligize for the AI issue. Sad they will not. Will see what is next.
Well...I guess I forgot my own name! Lol just kidding! But I vaguely remember hearing somewhere that there was a dedicated iOS app for listening to these Apple keynotes and such. What is that app called? I honestly haven't listened to these lately due in part to time constraints, but also because most of what has been said hasn't applied to me. However, now that I have a Braille display and a more advanced iPhone I think more of this stuff will apply to me. In addition, I'm now a proud hearing-aid user.
You're probably thinking of the Apple Developer app. You can watch the different developer sessions or just read the transcripts of them. Some of the accessibility ones are interesting.
In addition to the Apple Developer app and the Events page, Apple keynotes can also be viewed using the TV app on iOS, iPadOS, macOS, and, I'd assume, tvOS.
Considering that 90% of the events I watch are in the TV app.
On the events page, and their YouTube channel are the only places where you can watch the event live. I am not sure about the developer app, and I am 99% sure you cannot watch the event live in the TV app. I could be wrong, so feel free to correct me if I am.
I thought that Apple Intelligence was really going to be something! Well, like Oliver said, and I agree, Siri isn't any smarter. I turned Apple Intelligence off because it hasn't improved dictation of text messages. I admit, this could be operator error. I'll try Apple intelligence feature again in a later update.
Thanks guys, I will have to check out the developer app. I'm interested in what all they have to say about accessibility, aside from implementing it of course.
I agree, what we want is a smart assistant with agency to help us use complex or outright inaccessible apps and websites. And I can't figure out why this capability seems to lag so far behind other AI capabilities. I'm bombarded with news that AI is leaping forward every day, yesterday's Double Tap predicting programmers would be out of work in a year as one recent example. Yet I still can't tell an AI to simply log me into some website that has all the usability of a junior high student's science fair project. Or just search the iTunes store for all albums by Public Image Limited.
Or tell SIRI to add that phone number to his contacts, or tell me when my sister's flight is coming in. Okay, sorry to keep beating those two dead horses, but Apple kind of asked for it.
You know all, we do not know how it would be with VO. I do not think there are so many blind people who own a Visual pro device. Will no about the bugs when it comes as iOS. Think only 100000 devices were sole. Not enough to check on the bugs regarding VO.
The whole problem I have with Siri is that according to WWDC2024, Siri was supposed to work like a full-fledged agent within IOS 18 itself; Apple even made a fake add about that, still come WWDC2025, Siri is as dumb as ever. And remember, 2-3 years is a very long time in the current tech climate. By the time Siri will be agent-ready in the next couple of years, I can't imagine where apple's competetors would be.
If you don't know, John Gruber is a died-in-the-wool Apple apologist who likes to pretend to be a journalist. (OK, I'll freely admit, that's just my opinion, albeit that I think it's a fairly accurate one.) He wrote this little article, well worth reading for the schadenfreude, called Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino, in which he essentially argues that Apple had overstepped its moral authority by promising something that it knew it simply couldn't deliver. I, of course, argue that the problem goes much deeper than that—that Apple's tech debt is a longstanding failure of Apple management, and that Apple Intelligence is just the greatest and most glaring manifestation—but still, reading this from Gruber is certainly sobering.
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Can’t wait!
This is my favorite time of every year, so can’t wait for WWDC.
can't wait as well
I can't wait as well.
Me too! :)
I've been a beta tester for several years now & love it, despite the bugs that come with it.
I can’t wait to see what Apple brings us and watchOS 12. If I decide to go through with it, which I probably will, this will be the first beta that I’ve tested on my new Apple Watch.
I am excited also
I will be beta testing iPadOS 19 on my iPad 9 if its supported, i only got it 2 years ago so it better be 😁
What? No!
Everyone knows the only way to beta test is to dogfood with production data and apps, right? Finally got together the gumption to move my iPhone to the 18.4 RC seed, and what do you know, bugs and bugs and bugs and bugs and bugs! And, of course, we can hardly forget the promised new redesign—that's always something we can count on to be buttery smooth and a guarantee of instant life improvement. Yes? Yes yes? Yes yes yes?
Sigh. But the train must rumble on …
Maybe there'll be some real under-the-bonnet improvements. Especially for macOS, I'd really like that. I still like macOS, despite everything …
Somehow I'm pessimistic this time.
I mean, they're yet to deliver most of what they promissed they would the last time around, and what they have have been pretty pointless stuff. Did IOS 18 make my life more productive, efficient or less difficult compared to IOS 17? nope. yet did they fix the under-the-hood stuff? nope there as well. unless they're cooking something up that's really interesting which has not leaked and that can roll out instantly, not excited. Design changes? yes, interesting and I definitely will try the betas out, but I don't know if it'll make my life any more productive...
Trust but verify
Trust but verify Now I do not trust Apple to tell me the true, so I will wait. They need to appoligize for the AI issue. Sad they will not. Will see what is next.
What's My Name Again?
Well...I guess I forgot my own name! Lol just kidding! But I vaguely remember hearing somewhere that there was a dedicated iOS app for listening to these Apple keynotes and such. What is that app called? I honestly haven't listened to these lately due in part to time constraints, but also because most of what has been said hasn't applied to me. However, now that I have a Braille display and a more advanced iPhone I think more of this stuff will apply to me. In addition, I'm now a proud hearing-aid user.
You're probably thinking of…
You're probably thinking of the Apple Developer app. You can watch the different developer sessions or just read the transcripts of them. Some of the accessibility ones are interesting.
You can also watch WWDC online.
Also, you can watch WWDC at Apple's Events page, except right now it doesn't show WWDC yet..
TV app
In addition to the Apple Developer app and the Events page, Apple keynotes can also be viewed using the TV app on iOS, iPadOS, macOS, and, I'd assume, tvOS.
Oh yes, I forgot about that!
Considering that 90% of the events I watch are in the TV app.
On the events page, and their YouTube channel are the only places where you can watch the event live. I am not sure about the developer app, and I am 99% sure you cannot watch the event live in the TV app. I could be wrong, so feel free to correct me if I am.
Apple Intelligence.
I thought that Apple Intelligence was really going to be something! Well, like Oliver said, and I agree, Siri isn't any smarter. I turned Apple Intelligence off because it hasn't improved dictation of text messages. I admit, this could be operator error. I'll try Apple intelligence feature again in a later update.
Coming soon ... maybe
Apple is planning to eventually replace the ChatGPT integration and incorporate an all new Siri LLM. Some info below.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-21/apple-readies-more-conversational-llm-siri-in-bid-to-rival-openai-s-chatgpt#:~:text=Apple%20Readies%20More%20Conversational%20Siri%20in%20Bid,next%20year%2C%20with%20rollout%20coming%20in%202026.
https://www.theverge.com/news/622465/siris-real-ai-upgrade-could-still-be-years-away
https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/apple_is_delaying_the_more_personalized_siri_apple_intelligence_features
https://www.laptopmag.com/ai/apple-intelligence-llm-siri-rumored-release-2027
Thanks Guys, Will Have to Check...
Thanks guys, I will have to check out the developer app. I'm interested in what all they have to say about accessibility, aside from implementing it of course.
Brian
Take it with a grane of salt.
@Holger
Saltines.
Brian
Nuts.
Cannot wait
Can't wait to see what the new operating system for the iPhone is going to have and what features it's going to bring for the phones
Vision
More about looking like visual pro and not much features. The AI is in the twilight zone.
Apple should have a rule
Apple doesn't even get to schedule another WWDC until all features promised in the last WWDC are 1) delivered, 2) functional, and 3) accessible.
Oh, how I wish that was the case.
Things would get fixed a lot quicker if that were the case. *cough* SNR... ;)
I'm not holding out much hope for the new siri.
The thing is, it's been done before. Ok, let's say siri gets smarter, well it's at least 5 or so years behind, so it won't be anything huge.
Honestly, the only reason i stay with apple now is just because i know it.
The new design might be interesting but apart from that, nothing makes me excited for new releases anymore.
The only thing I'm interested in would be new voices.
Re: Ash Rein
Looks like you double-posted.
I agree, what we want is a smart assistant with agency to help us use complex or outright inaccessible apps and websites. And I can't figure out why this capability seems to lag so far behind other AI capabilities. I'm bombarded with news that AI is leaping forward every day, yesterday's Double Tap predicting programmers would be out of work in a year as one recent example. Yet I still can't tell an AI to simply log me into some website that has all the usability of a junior high student's science fair project. Or just search the iTunes store for all albums by Public Image Limited.
Or tell SIRI to add that phone number to his contacts, or tell me when my sister's flight is coming in. Okay, sorry to keep beating those two dead horses, but Apple kind of asked for it.
Visual Pro
You know all, we do not know how it would be with VO. I do not think there are so many blind people who own a Visual pro device. Will no about the bugs when it comes as iOS. Think only 100000 devices were sole. Not enough to check on the bugs regarding VO.
Siri
The whole problem I have with Siri is that according to WWDC2024, Siri was supposed to work like a full-fledged agent within IOS 18 itself; Apple even made a fake add about that, still come WWDC2025, Siri is as dumb as ever. And remember, 2-3 years is a very long time in the current tech climate. By the time Siri will be agent-ready in the next couple of years, I can't imagine where apple's competetors would be.
Yes, even John Gruber had a whinge about that.
If you don't know, John Gruber is a died-in-the-wool Apple apologist who likes to pretend to be a journalist. (OK, I'll freely admit, that's just my opinion, albeit that I think it's a fairly accurate one.) He wrote this little article, well worth reading for the schadenfreude, called Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino, in which he essentially argues that Apple had overstepped its moral authority by promising something that it knew it simply couldn't deliver. I, of course, argue that the problem goes much deeper than that—that Apple's tech debt is a longstanding failure of Apple management, and that Apple Intelligence is just the greatest and most glaring manifestation—but still, reading this from Gruber is certainly sobering.
Gokul
Steve Jaws would not allow that. Tim is more about money and nothing else. He is bringing the Apple brand down.
Scathing
Thanks for the article pointer, Sebby. The author was spot on.
Ash Rein
Well do not know him and do not care to make that type of statement. Will not throw the first stone.
@Ash Rein
I think I love you.
Thank you, that is all.