What apps are people using on IOS to read, with a brail display, books purchased or downloaded?

By Ollie, 7 January, 2025

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iOS and iPadOS

Hi,

No wonder brail is a dying skill. It seems exceedingly difficult to find a way of reading a book which doesn't have issues. What follows is my experiences and issues with various apps I've used to try and read books on my brail display whilst connected to my iPhone.

1. The Kindle app: The up side of kindle is it resumes exactly where you left it. The down side is, for some reason, these days, it likes to jump over large swaths of text which requires backing up through the text to find where you were which makes it frustrating and, to my mind, unusable Also, reading through the library in the app seems broken. If you move to the first element on the screen it skips over the library and you have to back through it, no good if you have a large library..

2. Apple Books: This works okay though at the end of each page it reads, action available, which seems to occur every few lines which is annoying, though maybe not a deal breaker. Added to this I can easily import books downloaded from RNIB by opening them on my mac, this is good. Still, that wasted space every few lines of, action available, is highly annoying.

3. Dolphin Easy Reader: Doesn't change pages as you scroll. The app is also kinda clunky. Avoid.

4. BookShare Reader: I lied and said I was living in America and was able to sign up and pay for a BookShare account. The issue with this one, unless you leave a bookmark, it doesn't return to your last reading place, which is kind of ridiculous.

These, as I see it, are the only options. If you have any other suggestions, please let me know. All have their advantages, kindle picks up from where you left off, apple books allows for easy importing from books downloaded from libraries, easy reader is the only app on IOS where you can access RNIB libraries, and BookShare seems okay, but not really viable for most outside the US.

Added to this, flaky connections to the device (I'm on an older display), and the act of relaxing whilst trying to improve my brail literacy quickly dissolves in to me giving up. Surely there is something easier or better than this?

I'm aware of the BI20X from HumanWear, which I'd like to purchase at some point, but I don't really have the money at the moment and, besides, I have a perfectly good display in the Vario Ultra 20.

My ideal is an app where:

1. It scrolls correctly.

2. It resumes my place when leaving and returning to the app.

3. Allows for import of books or in app purchase.

Do you have any ideas? I just want to chill and read rather than encountering these seemingly small but significant issues. Is there really no IOS app that simply works to read books without these niggling issues that ruin the experience?

If the kindle, as in the hardware, had brail support, I'd get one like a shot. I did try the fire tablet, but the scrolling buttons on my display didn't seem to be mapped meaning you had to use brail chords to advance the text which, again, is no good for long reading sessions.

And maybe that's the problem. A little niggle, when magnified by a long reading session, becomes a big issue. Brail is already slower and harder than sighted reading, on an intellectual level, of course brail is easier than sighted reading if you can't see, so we need as smooth a time of it as possible to make it more attractive than the good old audio book but, if you're anything like me, sometimes a bit of silence is nice.

Options

Comments

By Maldalain on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

It works for me, one thing is that it deals with the books as one bulk of text, and you lose your exact position in the book if you leave the app and reopen it.

By Ollie on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

Ah, yeah. I forgot about that one. What was the other one, the competitor to speech central?

By inforover on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

The Competitor to speech central is Voice Dream Reader. I'm fairly sure you can bookmark on both speech central and voice dream, I'm guessing you've tried that?

By Ollie on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

Ah yes. The evil one!

I'd rather not have to bookmark. It seems dreadfully archaic in the modern age.

For anything but a reference text, the argument for resuming where one left off is surely stronger than returning to the previous bookmark. Having to set a bookmark when hopping out of the text, for example, to change music, is daft.

By inforover on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

In deed. The Darth Vader of the reading world, if you will.
I agree that it's quite ancient to bookmark. I don't use it with a braille display, but speech central has always been my reader of choice for that reason, it goes back to exactly where I left off. The developer is also fairly responsive, either here on applevis or if you email him directly.

By Brian on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

Go to settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, verbosity, actions, and uncheck speech and braille. In fact, just set it all to "do nothing".

You're welcome.

By Brian on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

Should work systemwide. These are VoiceOver settings, after all.
Although I guess you could make an activity just for Apple Books, if you wanted.

By Ollie on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

Apple Books is now perfect... Thank you so much! Hero. I was so close to pulling the trigger on a BI20X. You've saved me £1800.

By Brian on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

To send that amount my way, for services rendered. 😈

By Ollie on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

Uh, yeah... It's in the post.

Also, what I meant was, this solves the issue in apple books specifically. It doesn't fix the issues with kindle jumping blocks of text etc?

By Ekaj on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

I realize some of you are not from the US and therefore don't have access to BARD Mobile. But I briefly checked this app out in conjunction with my NLS eReader, and it seemed that the blue-tooth connection kept dropping out. That was on my iPhone 7 though, so I'll have to check it out on my current phone. I briefly checked out Dolphin Easy Reader, but that was before I got my eReader.

By Brian on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

@Ollie,
Oh yeah, no kidding. I have no idea what is going on with the Kindle app these days. Lucky for me, I use Alexa to read my Kindle books.

@Ekaj,
US here as well. The current BARD app is amazing. The old one was horrible, though.

By Ollie on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

I found the alexa assisted reader a bit flaky. I'm not sure if it was the book, but it kept getting stuck on a page. The quality of the sample rate of the voice is frustratingly low too.

The tech is all there, it's just not quitte optimised for the ideal. For example, I'd love to use the microsoft voices, they are light weight and sound fantastic, but they don't work to read in edge from the kindle web viewer.

By Brian on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

I only use the Alexa app on my iPhone to read Kindle books, I maybe should have said that in my last post. It's still Alexa, just Alexa on my iPhone. I do, not, use the Alexa assistive reader, or Kindle assistive reader, or whatever it is called in the actual Kindle app. The one that uses the Samantha voice, Alex voice, etc., etc. That, is God awful.

By Ollie on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

Sorry, that's the one I meant, the one where you ask alexa to resume latest kindle book. that was the one I was having issues with. I think I misnamed it.

It is a shame we don't hav a good way of activating alexa on the iPhone without going into the app. I think there is a widget, but widgets are a bit unpredictable when it comes to voiceover.

By Brian on Wednesday, January 8, 2025 - 04:49

The widget actually works pretty well. Put it on one of your home screens, or in your today view, which is what I have done, and double tap on it. Alexa opens, and immediately activates as if you called out to an actual Alexa device, meaning that it beeps and is awaiting a voice command.

Hope that made sense.