an interesting device I came across that I don't recommend buying.

By Brad, 17 March, 2024

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Assistive Technology

The device is called the way band and at first I was excited about it.

A blind person is heading the project so I thought the website would be fully accessible but it isn't. There's unlabeled buttons, unlabeled edit boxes and unlabeled graphics.

What's the wayband? Welll it's like the buzclip if you've seen or used that, but instead of using heat/a sensor on it to detect when the device is near walls, this uses haptics. It can aparenetly guide the blind user to where they need to go, apart from one thing, it can't detect obsticles yet so you still have to use your cane to get around things but they're acting like it's a device you can take without your cane and just get up and go.

It helped the blind person heading this, at least I think it's him, to run a marathon so that's great but that seams to be their own marketing bit.

OH and get this, you can only buy the device on... wait for it... wait for it... Amazon dot com!

Oh by the way, amazon users gave it a 1 point something out of 5, or is it 10, iether way, they didn't like it at all.

I guess it goes to show that just because something is made by a blind person it doesn't mean it's any good.

I love the idea of haptics and really do think they can and will help us in the future, I just hope that they're used to their fullest potential.

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By Siobhan on Saturday, March 16, 2024 - 11:37

The only reason a man invented the damn thing was because he got sick of being hit in the balls when he was using it. Umm, it ain't that hard, having a male body part or not, it's simply called using the cane correctly. also a reason I got rid of that stupid hook handled cane years ago and use folding ones. As for the device, I'd still see what it's about. I make my own decisions based on what works for me not one's opinion valuable as it might be to some.

By Lee on Saturday, March 16, 2024 - 11:37

Hi Guys,

Just did a search for wayband demo and a video came up from 2021. It was aprox 15 minutes long and was very odd. It seemed to be aimed at 5 year old kids as there was a quiz as part of the demo and the guy explaining the video spoke like he was talking to children. Also, he did the demo as if this was aimed at sighted people. In one part he was using the map function and zooming in on locations. No VO input at all. The whole thing was weird. Also, based on this demo it really does look pointless. Obviously though, people will have to make up their own minds.

By Brad on Saturday, March 16, 2024 - 11:37

I'm not the be all and end all when it comes to this stuff and wouldn't want to be.

I just thought i'd put this out there because of how odd it seams.

By Andy Lane on Saturday, March 16, 2024 - 11:37

It got me thinking though. There isn’t an established best practice yet for feedback from these devices, should it be haptic, voice, beeps etc. One thing for certain though. If someone brings out a uhm lets say haptic personal pleasure toy for the blind. I’ll be first in the queue at sight village to try it out. Then you’ll be able to find me easily enough. Just look for the blind guy walking incredibly close to walls with a huge smile on his face. Although it probably wouldn’t identify me alone, I have a feeling I wouldn’t be the only one doing the same thing. So people. Let’s make this happen.pleasurable mobility aids need to become a thing. Who’s with me? lol.

By SeasonKing on Saturday, March 16, 2024 - 11:37

Are you sure that it's really the blind guy leading? Sometimes they are just there, to grab attention. I myself would never agree for this kind of deal or product, but I suppose there all kinds of people in the world. Everyone wants money.

By kool_turk on Saturday, March 16, 2024 - 11:37

If you have good mobility skills, many of these devices aren't really needed. Years ago, I tried out the miniguide, both with its audio and haptics, and my echolocation was able to pick up things before it was able to detect objects.

With that said, for me at least, echolocation does not pick up small children or pets.

I also don't go around clicking my tongue in public because that's just weird.

The sound of the cane should detect obstacles before you can hit them.

But not everyone has been blind long enough to develop echo location so I can see why people would depend on these devices.

My real concern is what if these things fail while you're out and about.

Don't be too dependant on technology, because technology, while great, can and will fail.

By Brad on Saturday, March 16, 2024 - 11:37

I like new toys so will check out stuff to make my life easier when I can. Some of it will work, some won't, either way; I'll have fun.

By OldBear on Saturday, March 16, 2024 - 11:37

Strange thread... I recall, back in the 80s, there were some sort of ultra sound devices that were intended to replace canes for about ten-thousand times the price of a cane. They might have had a vibration feedback, I can't remember, and they didn't work very well. The only advantage over a cane was supposed to be for low hanging branches or head-level air conditioners and the like.
On one hand, connecting a bluetooth device to an iPhone has the potential for off-the-shelf items to become accessible--therefore not ten-thousand times more expensive. It also makes you dependent on the app continuing to be accessible, or the company remaining in business. A stand-alone, tech device might work for much longer than the company remains in business. I can always grab a broom handle or a stick if I have learned cane skills.

By Brad on Saturday, March 16, 2024 - 11:37

I believe they started in 2017 now I think on it, I was thinking it was a much newer device as it has haptic feedback.

This is definitly one of those before devices.

It'll be interesting to see what the future holds.

With figure 1, a talking robot that can do things using chat gpt4 that's meant for autimation and stuff like that, we might have an actual human like robot that can guide us around, I think i'd like that personally over a guide dog robot, it'd probably be a bit easier to hold but who knows.

It's exciting.