Vo switching to actions rotor setting with mail and other apps

By Dave Bahr, 29 July, 2023

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iOS and iPadOS

Hi, use a keyboard or braille display to navigate my phone 99 percent of the time. I've noticed that Voiceover likes to switch to the actions rotor setting especially if I pause in an email with multiple headings, like a playlist email I receive from a radio station I like, and I have to reset it from actions to headings. But this happens with a lot of other apps, it wants me to drag an image or some such on a google search page and I have to move it back to headings. Is this something that can be changed and I just don't know how to do it? Example, I'll pause in reading the headings of that playlist email and then the next time I move down using the rotor setting, which was set to headings, in the mail app, I'll get VO saying, archive, move, flag, Etc. ... I only stopped for like 2 seconds and I never get a notification that the rotor has been switched. Is this just a general bug or is there some purpose to why VO would do this sort of thing?

I hope all that makes sense, it's frustrating to say the least. Ok, is it an unsolvable issue, no, but it's an annoyance.
rant over, any thoughts?

Thanks, Dave

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By Jonathan Candler on Wednesday, August 23, 2023 - 11:41

Hello there is no setting from what I can tell. I could be wrong though. But voiceover will switch to the actions roader if it sees something that you can do. This, is quite normal. This is no bug.

By Yvonnezed on Wednesday, August 23, 2023 - 11:41

It's particularly annoying in mail, since most other apps don't have stuff on the actions rotor in reading areas like that.

My workaround is to use a specific heading navigation command instead of the rotor. Not sure what it is in braille, but on a qwerty keyboard it's vo-h and shift-h to navigate by heading I think, and in the case of touch, I've bound it to two-finger left and right, since I never use group navigation, but you could probably find an unused gesture somewhere if you do.

By Yvonnezed on Monday, October 23, 2023 - 11:41

Subject says it all. As of iOS 17, thereā€™s an option in the VO rotor settings to stop it changing like this. Not sure if Iā€™ll use it or not, Iā€™ve been using Voiceover with the previous behaviour for a long time and the muscle memory is strong, ā˜ŗļø.

By Dennis Long on Monday, October 23, 2023 - 11:41

I changed it in less then a day I put it back. I got used to the way it behaved. so I like the default behavior.

By Yvonnezed on Monday, October 23, 2023 - 11:41

Iā€™ll honestly probably do the same. I kind of wish it wasnā€™t part of the rotor settings, but activities or something, since itā€™d be nice to set this on a per app basis. E.g. maybe have this set in mail where I find it a real problem but not most other places.