Extremely confused about why InVisions announcement about their subscription model has been removed. Can Mods help please?

By Andy Lane, 29 September, 2023

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Apple Hardware and Compatible Accessories

It’s very concerning that our user generated content appears to have been removed for some reason. If a mod could jump in and provide reasons that would be very much appreciated otherwise whats the point of spending time and mental energy producing posts? Those posts should be a matter of record for future reference. It’s very troubling that information can just be removed from a website, especially when it refers to a potentially controversial and troublesome move by a company. That should be accessible for future reference.

I have also contacted a YouTube channel that campaignes agressively against behaviours such as InVisions. I referred them to that page where InVision purposely answered a query about hardware renewal as if I’d asked about software updates. That again should be a matter of record and He will need to access that to create his content.

Would it be possible to have clarification on whether content can be removed without warning for no good reason in future please and whether I can have access to the posts I created and InVision responded to.

I most definitely don’t want to cause any issues but I hope you understand why I’m troubled by seeing this content disappear as if it had never existed.

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By Andy Lane on Wednesday, October 25, 2023 - 07:21

I had the page cached so went and took screen shots of all 15 pages. Would it be possible to speak to a mod about whether this should be able to happen please. For InVisions Information. Deleting a page following a negative reaction just makes it look worse.

By David Goodwin on Wednesday, October 25, 2023 - 07:21

I understand it's disappointing when a post you were interested in disappears from the forum. In this case, the topic in question was deleted by the original poster - community members can choose to remove their own posts if they decide they no longer want them publicly visible.

While we can't control or override that choice, I know it's still frustrating when ongoing conversations get cut short that way. If the topic was particularly interesting or valuable, you may want to start a new thread on the same subject so the community can continue the discussion. That allows the conversation to carry on while respecting the original poster's wishes too.

By Andy Lane on Wednesday, October 25, 2023 - 07:21

As I said above, I now have screen shots of both the page I had cached with all the comments on Applevis and the page on InVisions site. Just in case that goes missing too. I have also provided an update to the channel I’m speaking to which has over 1 million subscribers.

I don’t think theres an easy way of recreating the page on a new forum post as the screen shots won’t be accessible. Perhaps I could use Be My AI to extract the comments and reproduce them here just so theres a historic record of this move. One thing for sure, I won’t be using InVision to OCR the text.

By Jonathan Candler on Wednesday, October 25, 2023 - 07:21

If the poster in question works for said company, and if they have removed their post because of we, the people, were expressing our opinions on said matter, then, yep, this makes them look bad on all fronts indeed! It's a bad subscription mottle pricing BTW and if they don't wanna hear that and instead delete the post, that's a disgrace and it's making them look like a bunch of pu*****! I wouldn't be opposed for applevis to disable post deletion on all counts here. I understand the freedom this brings to users, but the way they're going about this is so wrong!

By Brad on Wednesday, October 25, 2023 - 07:21

@Andy lane. What's the youtube link you're talking about, or is it not that kind of thing?

By Andy Lane on Wednesday, October 25, 2023 - 07:21

It’s a channel called Lewis Rossmann. He’s been campaigning against dodgy behaviours like this for years. He runs a repair shop that seems to mainly concentrate on Apple products. He does proper component level repairs instead of replacing entire mainboards for example. The channel has been enormous in the right to repair movement thats starting to change laws in the US and force tech giants to allow owners to have their devices repaired without paying inflated pricing like $599 ish for the glass on the back of an iPhone. He regularly features companies who try to lock their customers into subscription models where they own nothing and if they stop paying they get nothing. In InVisions case, it’s the size of the cash grab thats of public interest. It’s just rude to charge $9k for 5 years use of a product whose hardware costs $1899 retail so obviously less than that. I’m sure they can justify a little more for the software that runs the extra features of the home version over the Read but essentially the hardware is the same so up front cost to InVision is under $1899.

By Brad on Wednesday, October 25, 2023 - 07:21

I've heard of him.