I'm using the latest version of Mac OS. When VoiceOver encounters a YouTube page in Safari, it starts speaking through all of the Verified badges on the page and reading the titles of some of the videos all at once. Pressing control doesn't stop the speech and navigating by heading is unreliable. This is new behaviour which started earlier this week.
I can reproduce this on an older system, so it seems like the issue is with YouTube itself.
Can anyone else produce this on Safari on Mac? What about on Chrome?
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I can also reproduce this on…
I can also reproduce this on Safari. I haven't tried any other browsers or platforms, as I've found the behavior occurs sporadically.
Confirmed...
When I was at my parents' place this past weekend, a sister was having an issue on her Intel-based MacBook Air. I asked if I could check it out too, and she let me. So I did that, and the only website that did it was YouTube. It kept saying "verify" with no apparent end in site. Mine is doing this too. I guess it's something on YouTube's end, because changing settings in VoiceOver doesn't seem to fix it.
yeah, borked as hell, Safarii, brave browser, Firefox, all
all inhibit this behaviour.
maybe write to apple or google?
This happens on microsoft Edge too.
I just use firefox for now.
I'm not bothered by it but those who are forced to put up with it might want to make a call to BeMyEyes' google support.
same here
Same here. I'm using a third party app called Friendly Streaming browser, and I've been receiving the same result as everyone elce. the only workaround I've found is moving away and back to the focus window.
the only work around I found
I have this same issue in Brave browser. My only solution is to toggle Voiceover off with command F5, wait about 10 seconds or so, then toggle it back on. It's super annoying, but works. An actual fix for this would be great, as I use YouTube every day, a lot.
same
Same here. I'm experiencing this.
voiceover utility > web > uncheck enable live region
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How to fix this for now in windows for NVDA.
GO to NVDA/settings/object presentation and untick report dynamic content changes.
re: live regions
Does disabling this have any negative affect on my web browsing experience in general? I don't want to negatively impact anything I may do in future, just to fix youtube for now.
when you are in voiceover utility > web
click on the help button and see what live region is and the effect of uncheck the box. the short answer is no, most sites use this for verbose messages. youtube is not the only site doing this. as thing goes, i think sooner or later one would have to uncheck this anyway, because more and more sites are doing this.
While reporting of live…
While reporting of live regions can be helpful in certain situations if well-implemented, Youtube's decision to report the "Verified" badge in this way is superfluous and poorly conceived. One thing you could do is create a VoiceOver activity (or NVDA configuration profile) that disables reporting of live regions on Youtube while leaving screenreader behavior on other websites unaffected.
I thought I had a broken something.
I started noticing this in the morning. Thank you for telling us how to fix it on windows as well.
re: VO activity for regions
I tried creating one of these. Everything, as far as I can tell, is set correctly for the activity, with YouTube.com entered as the website the activity should be used for However, live regions continue to be read by VoiceOver. Does the activity apply to all browsers or only Safari? Only Safari would be weird as there are many web browsers for MacOS, but I can't figure out what I broke.
Any help/insights would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
I'm not sure about other…
I'm not sure about other browsers; I only use Safari and the activity seems to work for me.
only safari, it seems
This activity appears to only work for Safari. I may just have to globally disable live regions and hope for the best. I still kind of hope Youtube just undoes this change, as it's a recent thing.
I tried reporting this via…
I tried reporting this via the Google Accessibility feedback form but it wouldn't go through, saying the description needed a minimum of 10 characters, I had 460. SMH
Live region
Thank you for this solution, in my frustration I turned to Apple Vis, and there was my answer.
This is why I'm a member.
I reported the issue.
Whatever needs to be fixed isn't just on the app
As I've said before, it's just as annoying on the Mac using any browser you like. i have to turn down voice over, wait and hope I can click the search filter button and it loads because sometimes yep? sometimes, nope.
Turning off "enable live regions" worked
thank you to the person who suggested this, it has worked for me
Still Frustrated About A11y
I too am very grateful to those who have suggested using VoiceOver Activities. That being said, since I upgraded to MacOS 14, I've found that Activities based on a specific app, context, or website only usually work. In fact, I've found a smattering of bugs related to Activities as a whole. All this to day that, even though I've got my youtube.com Activity correctly set up, I find that all of the gunk still filters through sometimes.
I guess I'm really just complaining about the stance of a11y and bug fixing here. Quite frankly I was disappointed with the release of Sonoma due to the VoiceOver bugs it bought, but I'm also disappointed with Google. I mean we've been experiencing pretty large and annoying YouTube bugs for years now, and only recently some more joined the fray? Now not eve the web version is save from poor a11y choices? This is ridiculos and simply not good enough, right?
A suggestion
Have you tried the Duck Duck Go browser for YouTube videos? If you can deal with a simplistic design, the DDG media player is quite nice for streaming youtube videos.
Just my 2 cents. 🤷🏼♂️