Questions about using iPhone in hebrew and hebrew braille

By Vsevolod Popov, 13 April, 2023

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Hi all! Few days ago I decided to look again at possibility try to learn Hebrew language, and I have some questions regarding VoiceOver use and braille screen input. First, I noticed that when iPhone is switched to Hebrew language VoiceOver gestures are reversed. Swiping is done from right to left and not from left to right. I guess that's because of the way Hebrew is written, from right to left. Is there a way to change this behavior so VoiceOver gestures work as usual, from left to right? Also I have questions about braille screen input in Hebrew. I notice that on my braille display letters such as mem, noon, kaf, kof are written the same when they are written as safit letters as Karmit pronounces it and without them. But when I type with braille screen input, safit letters are always typed. How do I type usual letters kaf, kof, mem and noon? Now I have to use onscreen keyboard for that. I didn't seem to find anything about differences with these letters in wikipedia regarding braille, but maybe I don't understand something. Thank you!

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By Zivan Krisher on Monday, April 24, 2023 - 01:17

Hello, I'm not an expert on braille input, but I tried asking some friends.

It appears that the soffiot letters, such as Mem soffit, are entered automatically.
If you just write Men and then space or punctuation, it will automatically be entered as Mem Soffit.
If you add another letter after Mem, it will remain a regular Mem.

As for flicking left or right, there is a Gesture direction setting you can add to the rotor, Then you can select left to right, right to left or automatic.
(this may not work when dealing with HTML, like on the web or in mail).

Also, you do not have to switch the entire phone to Hebrew in order to write or read Hebrew. You can add Hebrew to your keyboard languages and add Hebrew to your rotor languages.

By Vsevolod Popov on Monday, April 24, 2023 - 01:17

Hi! Thank you for answer! I have one more question: I noticed when writing letter "shin" with braille screen input it inserts one more symbol that I have to remove. Is it a bug? What does that mean?

By Lielle ben simon on Monday, April 24, 2023 - 01:17

Hi, regarding to your question: the Braille screen input works with 6 dots Braille.
When you enter a letter with Braille Display or braille screen input sometimes it doesn't works as it should.
There are several letters with final letters.
The Hebrew Braille table is old and she doesn't up to date.
Regarding the shin letter there are 2 manors.
The regular shin without punctuation and another letter with punctuation.
When you wright the shin letter it adds the letter shin with the dot above.
It's called left shin.
You need to delete the dot above the letter, and it's fastrated.
I hpope that apple will enter the improved libluise hebrew Braille table and we can wright Hebrew properly.

By Lielle ben simon on Monday, April 24, 2023 - 01:17

I am a native Hebrew speaker and I'll happy to help to improve your writing Nand reading in Hebrew.
My mail and phone writon in my profile on Applevis.

By Lielle ben simon on Thursday, October 10, 2024 - 01:17

Hi, for those who's interesting it, Apple was added Liblouis Braille table.
This is 8 dot Hebrew Braille table.
On iOS 18 you can set suppertly input and output Braille tables and you can change them on a fly.
In order to change input Braille table press Space+2-3-6 Braille dots.
In order to change output Braille table you need to press on Space+1-2-4-5.
If you need to read Hebrew you need to moove the output Braille table to Hebrew libluis 8 dot computer Braille table for Hebrew, multy language Computer Braille.
It works fine.