Hi,
I have searched a few of the forum topics and found no relevant solutions so I would like to open a new post here.
I have my IMac running latest Mac OS , and have completed all the process in Boot Camp (i.e. create Win 10 install USB, create boot camp partition etc) and my Mac had restarted and enter into the Windows set up screen (as I have used Seeing Ai to read the text from the screen)
At that time, when I try to press ctrl win Enter to trigger Narrtor, no sound come out from the Mac.
I saw that some people mentioned that installing Win 10 on Mac is accessible, so can anyone give me advices on what I have done wrong? or what should I do?
Thanks
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The layout of the keys isā¦
The layout of the keys is different on Mac keyboard. The Windows key is to the left of the spacebar, and the alt is next, so the keys from left to right function-left control-left alt-Windows.
Yes, I know this differenceā¦
Yes, I know this difference.
In fact I have plugin a Windows keyboard , so key layout should not be a problem
audio driver
hello.
in which year your mac was released?
if it's a below 2015 or still it's 2015 or above, try conecting usb headset or usb soundcard, maiby it'll help you.
Hi, thanks for yourā¦
Hi, thanks for your suggestions.
I am using late 2013 Imac.
Well, I do not have usb headset or soundcard,
I only have 3.5 (how to call this?) earphone
Sighted Asssistance
If you don't have a USB headset or other USB audio device, you'll need sighted assistance until you've installed Windows and the BootCamp drivers. Windows doesn't automatically detect the audio device on the Mac, hence why this is necessary. If you don't have access to a person in your environment, use Be My Eyes to call Microsoft. A Microsoft agent can help you through the process.
Hi, thanks. Can you tell meā¦
Hi, thanks.
Can you tell me why only USB headset is usable? but not regular earphone or headset?
USB Headset
The regular earpiece that connects to the 3.5mm audio jack uses the Mac built-in audio hardware. Windows doesn't have drivers to recognize this by default. The USB device acts as its own output device that's totally separate from the Mac audio device.
Clearing up some confusion regarding audio and keyboard
Hey all.
so, to get the audio confusion out of the way, apparently since a few versions of bootcamp it is possible to use normal 3.5mm headphones to install windows. Prior to installation and restart, just plug them in, when windows has start,ed, hit ctrl + alt + enter and you will hear Narrator speaking.
I don't know why or how it manages to use the sound drivers, I suppose they integrated them into the first time setup rutine. I tryed it on my macbook air and it worked without a charm. It's a 2017 model, so your older MBP might not be able to use that feature.
Regarding the windows keyboard, this doesn't matter at all, the alt and win keys are still changed from a standard windows layout. Also, windows keyboards just don't exist. There are keyboards with different key labels for different operating systems, but calling it windows or mac keyboard is just wrong.
Hope I could help out.
Factually inaccurate audio support information
Unfortunately, the information in your comment regarding audio support for 3.5mm headphone connections is factually inaccurate. I am a software developer familiar with both Windows and macOS, and can definitively confirm that the Boot Camp audio drivers are not slipstreamed into the Windows installation process that is started via the Boot Camp Assistant. Thus, plugging in 3.5mm headphones will not enable support for Narrator during the initial Windows installation process, as has been the case now for quite a few years.
I have confirmed this to be true on the most recent Mac Mini model (released in 2018), the most recent 16-inch MacBook Pro model (released in 2019), and even several 15-inch MacBooK Pro models (from 2010, 2013, and 2015); all use similar audio chipsets that are not natively supported by the limited subset of drivers available during a Windows installation, and thus plugging 3.5mm headphones or speakers into any of these machines and attempting to start Narrator during the installation process results in the same thing: absolutely no sound. However, it may, as others pointed out, be possible to receive audio by plugging in a compatible USB sound card, but I have not tested this setup and thus cannot make a definitive statement regarding its viability.
It may be possible to manually slipstream the required audio drivers into the Windows installation package, but this is outside the scope of this comment. Moving forward, I would encourage others to perform their own tests on multiple Mac models from multiple Mac hardware lines, and perhaps conduct research into the Windows installation files, before presenting what they believe to be a solution to the problem of installing Windows 10 independently via Narrator.
For those still wishing to install Windows 10 via Boot Camp on a supported Mac model, the best path forward is to use Be My Eyes, Aira, or related applications to receive sighted assistance, or just ask a sighted individual who may be in the vicinity and who I am sure would be quite willing to assist.
I am challenging this argument
Hey, thanks for your answer. I from my side can confirm though that after rebooting into the windows setup and hitting the combination to turn on narrator, it started speaking and asked to choose my language, cuntry and which edition of windows I want to install.
So, either your information are outdated, or I have some magical audio drivers that activated just for me alone :). If you want, i can delete my windows partition and show it to you if you don't believe me.
Different models
One thing you'll note about the comment I made is that my research and the evidence I presented based on that research targeted specific Mac models. If you have a Mac model that does not conform to the presented list, you are welcome to do your own research, present information about the slipstreamed driver files, the specific Mac model you are using, the specific audio chipset model, and other relevant details. Then, through your comments and mine, individuals would have a clear picture of Mac models where audio is not supported during a Windows installation (2018 Mac Mini, 2019 16-inch MacBook Pro, and 2010/2013/2015 15-inch MacBook Pro), and models where audio is supported during a Windows installation.
Installation
I don't know if my contribution will be useful, but here is my experience. A couple of days ago I installed Windows 10 through Bootcamp on a 2013 MacBook Air. As you say, the first part of the installation, in which it asks you to choose region, version of windows, etc., I could listen to it through headphones of 3.5. However, the second part of the installation, in which you configure your Windows or Microsoft account, choose whether to share information, etc., I could only do it through USB headphones. I haven'tĀ technical data, but that was my experience.