Why do blind gamers enjoy simplistic apps like card games over cool audio games?

By brandon armstrong, 5 December, 2015

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iOS and iPadOS Gaming

hi their, recently I've seem to notice that we as a community seem to enjoy more simplistic games like card games over great content like rock on and other audio based stuff. don't get me wrong, while I do enjoy playing a game of cards from time to time, it's not all i want to play on iOS. have we just become so use to being left out, that when a cool game comes along we give it a shot, but we gravitate more towards the simplistic apps like card based games and stuff of that nature, rather then push for more audio based content like rock on? I for one want to enjoy more main stream games like rock on rather then just have the usual simplistic offering of card and dice based games. what do you all think?

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By Gar on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 - 07:19

I, personally, have the money. I understand that some folks don't most of the time, but there are some occasions, say, Christmas, when I could see that changing. I would gladly spend my money on a game if I knew it would be quality entertainment, thoughtfully designed, with endless layers of rich detail and characterization. But because I hardly see such things... well, I can, and frequently do, look for entertainment elsewhere. I want to support developers of accessible games, but I refuse to support recycled or unoriginal content.

If you can buy an iPhone, you can buy an app. I paid for tank command, lone wolf and another game from GMA for my windows. Can not believe anyone can create a good game such as a boxing game, US football and so. I would pay for those games.

By mority on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

Lol, the golden apple was given to dice world, the most simple dice game around for ages and not going anywhere. Yeah, really a worthy applicant for the golden apple and saddening to see that this got the award in the end, only further proves my and OPs point.
And yep, I'll continue down that trail stating that certain games are too simple and not worth my time. i mean, no wonder you have something against the fact that I say something against simplistic games, you play blindfold games, the LJN of the audiogame market, hope someone got what I was hinting at.
But, talk to you later, I gotta set my team up in fifa 20 and take a look at the transfer market to see if I can get a new striker, one of mine is leaving the club at the end of the year and I need a new one for the championship.
After that, i guess I do one or two car races in actually licensed cars.

Cherio.

Moritz

By Skhye on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

What I find very disturbing about this whole thread is the utter disregard for Braille. Remember, audio games are not accessible for those with a hearing loss. Also, some of us prefer to play games using Braille as opposed to speech. Yes, some of these games are what people call simplistic, but they are playable. Keep that in mind when you're bashing and trashing.

By ming on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

I think good games should have good r e ward.
and the developers need to keep the game running and updating !
it is very sad that most of the good audio games can not last longer.
so, I don't mind to pay for a great game...
blind quest, is one of them I like to play.

By DMNagel on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

There are people who prefer braille do to hearing issues, so we aren't the only ones in town. Come to think of it, diehard fans of audio might actually be competing Against both those who prefer text and those who prefer Braille. Thus, they'll be heavily outnumbered. Text can also be covered by braille, so it won't be surprising if those who prefer braille also support normal text based games. I of course don't prefer either. I'll buy anything, audio and text alike In order to at least try it once. Should I like the game, I'll come back to it. Otherwise, I don't.

By Gar on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

Regarding braille games, I would assume that you are speaking of games with physical cards and such, or text based games which can be played with a braille display..
In which case, I have nothing against either. I used to be obsessed with the Choice of Games games. There are some that I will, occasionally, go back and play again. However, with the lack of new sci-fi titles I find that my interest has diminished.
In regards to audio games like Blind Quest, it's nice to see that newer games are being developed. Fantasy however is not my genre, so I would rather not drop the cash into that particular game. Rest assured, if another audio sci-fi game comes out, or even something like Papa Sangre (I consider that more supernatural than fantasy), I will jump on it.

By Brian Giles on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

In reply to by mority

Lol LJN? nice retro analogy there.

I think a modern mainstream equivalent would be EA, at least that's the impression I get from some YouTubers. They've been criticized for microtransactions and not really improving much in some of their games.

I can see both sides of this. However, smart phones are mobile devices, so are more suited to more casual games. Several years ago, several companies tried bringing their triple A console games over to mobile, and while some are still available, most have gone away, because virtual on screen controls are generally terrible. Yes there's controller support now, but that's one more thing you have to bring with you. Now most big name game franchises are put on mobile in a way that's designed for that first. Although, that usually comes with all the microtransaction stuff typical of mobile though.

I do still play Dice World a lot, but I agree that it points out the glaring lack of variety in accessible games. Not sure what the best way to fix that would be.

By Devin Prater on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

I only play mainstream games now. I did buy Manamon 2, Windows only, no you can't play it on an iPhone. I put it down after probably the 500th random encounter in which I just had to attack and boom there goes that enemy, gotta find another and level up. I hate games I could play in my sleep. Now I just play Dissidia Final Fantasy, on Windows because the PSP emulator isn't accessible on iOS. It's a fighting game, with RPG elements, and lots of stuff to do in the game, and combat isn't simple like Mortal Kombat, either. It's 3D, meaning not a sidescroller, and you have defense (bravery) that you have to care about, not just HP, and Ex-Cores you collect to perform an ultimate attack, and you can customize your characters. Yes, it's great.

By Holger Fiallo on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

Simplistic games for simplistic people?

By Devin Prater on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

I'm not sure we have had any really complex games. Fortunately, I've found a way to play video games on iOS, through emulation. I am not promoting piracy; I just play games that I've bought. But if anyone is interested in enjoying amazing, complex games, like fighting games, I can write a guide on getting things going. I just wish more people were trying to do all this as well, not just me. It can be hard work.

Also, for now, there is no OCR to help us play. I've tried, and I can't get VoiceOver to manually scan the screen the way it does for pictures. If anyone has any ideas on that too, I'd love to know.

By Trenton Matthews on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

Yah,

I hope that Voiceover will add a more up to date O C R feature,(especially for those who wish not to use either NVDA on Windows or Commentary/Jieshuo premium on Android.) There needs to be more choice!

PS. It’s too bad there ain’t a way for Seeing AI to work outside of its own IOS app.

By ming on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

regarding Devin Prater's post.

how does it work?

By Devin Prater on Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:19

First, you buy a game to play. For PSP games, for example, I buy them from the Playstation Network. If you have a PSP, you can then get the games from your system. If not, you have to get them from elsewhere. You did, however, buy the game. Then, you have to get a PSP emulator. This requires signing up for AltStore, a third-party iOS App Store which uses something like Xcode on a Mac to sign an app you download. You then have to configure the emulator through its configuration file, since it isn't actually accessible. Set the CPU to 2 (IR interpreter), and your name. You can do this by using iCloud Drive to transfer the configuration file back and forth from the iOS device and your computer. Then, you get your legally owned game onto the iPhone. With PPSSPP open, use a game controller and go down two times, and to the right until you hear the game's music. If this doesn't work, you may only need to move down once. I'll be creating a guide for all this, expanding on a lot of it.

And yes, this is the length I go to to get good games on my iPhone. And an iPhone X R can run PSP games, at least audio-wise, perfectly.