Seleste Smart Glasses Review

By emassey, 5 April, 2024

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Rating

5 Stars

Review

Hardware

The Seleste glasses feel similar to regular sunglasses, except that the arms are thicker to hold the electronics, and there is a small camera right between the eyes. There are also two buttons on the right arm, and a touchpad on the right arm near the hinge. Both arms have a wide and thick part near the front, and a significantly narrower part resting above your ears that curves at the end. In addition, there's a speaker built in to the right arm. The glasses come with a protective case, and they charge through a micro USB port on the right arm. When I asked some sighted people what they look like, they said they look like regular sunglasses, and the camera is only noticeable if they look more closely. They said that the glasses don't look odd at all, and its not obvious that they're smart glasses.

Setup Process and Connection

After Seleste shipped the glasses, they emailed me a link to enroll in the TestFlight beta for the Seleste app. Currently they only support iOS and not Android, but hopefully that will be coming soon. The setup process is pretty easy; after you create an account, the app will ask you to turn on the glasses by holding down the bottom button, the button farthest from the front. After that, the app will automatically find and connect to them over Bluetooth, and then it will ask you to connect the glasses to WiFi. If you are at home, you can enter the details for your home network, or if not, you can turn on your phone's hotspot and enter the details for that. The app can store multiple WiFi networks, and when you start the app again, the glasses will usually automatically connect to either your home network or your hotspot depending on where you are. When you use the hotspot, you need to make sure "Maximize compatibility" is turned on in the settings for "Personal hotspot" so it will create a 2.4 GHZ network instead of a 5 GHZ network, since the glasses only support 2.4 GHZ. I think you also need to have the "Personal hotspot" settings page open while the glasses connect. To turn off the glasses, you hold the bottom button down until you hear the sound, and pressing that button will speak the remaining battery percentage.

Features

Right now, the app has three main features: text scanning, scene description, and the smart assistant. Text scanning can be triggered by pressing the top button on the glasses once, or by activating a button in the app. It will read any text that the camera sees, although right now it takes a few seconds for it to process. I think the way it works is it takes a picture, processes it, reads the text, and then repeats. There is no way to save the text, but you can review the result with VoiceOver. Scene description can be triggered by pressing the top button twice quickly, or from the app, and it will take a picture and send it to an AI based on GPT-4 and then speak the description. It only takes about 5 seconds now, and the descriptions are extremely detailed and accurate, just like the descriptions from Be My AI. The smart assistant can be triggered by saying "Ella" or "Sam", depending on the assistant name you set, and then speaking your question; or, you can type your question into the app. The assistant can answer questions about what the camera sees, and it will also remember previous images and let you ask about them too. It can also take pictures repeatedly, for example if you ask it to find something you've dropped, or to describe people passing by. They have also developed a Gmail integration, although it has not been released to the public yet.

There are two options for the voice. It can either play through the speaker on the glasses, or through the phone. However, the voice from the glasses is very robotic, and people around you will be able to hear it easily. If you choose the phone, it will use an OpenAI voice, which is a lot better, and you can also change the speech rate, which is very helpful for listening to the long AI descriptions faster. You can also use headphones, and I have tried the Shokz OpenRun Pro, Shokz OpenFit, Sony LinkBuds, and AirPods Pro 2, all of which can fit on my head along with the glasses. I sometimes even wear the OpenRun Pro and OpenFit at the same time when away from home, so I can hear both my phone and my Android watch, and the glasses still fit. My ears sometimes start hurting a little after a few hours, but its not too bad. However, sometimes when I'm around traffic, or my environment is louder for some other reason, the voice can be hard to hear, especially at higher speeds. Hopefully they will allow you to increase the volume of the voice in the future, since it is quieter than VoiceOver right now.

I would estimate the battery life to be about 8 hours, and the glasses seem to charge pretty quickly.

Flaws

Right now, you cannot use the glasses with other apps such as OKO or Seeing AI, or use them for video calling, including Aira, and part of this is because of Apple's limitations on what iOS apps can do. However, the company plans to allow third-party apps to interface with the glasses in the future. Sometimes the glasses will lose connection with my hotspot, making me have to restart the glasses and reconnect, although this happens less often now. Also, sometimes I have to turn Bluetooth off and back on before the glasses will connect, and this could be because I usually have around 4 devices already connected to my phone. The reason the glasses need to connect to WiFi is that the app retrieves the images from the glasses over HTTP, since Bluetooth bandwidth is very limited, although they said they would be switching to only Bluetooth in the future. Even though the app doesn't give me AI descriptions when running in the background, I have been able to run my GPS apps in the background while the Seleste app is in the foreground, although audio from BlindSquare seems to conflict with the Seleste app.

Conclusion

Besides the small issues I mentioned, I really like these glasses. They are useful for many different tasks, including choosing and matching clothes, finding dropped items, reading labels, reading mail, etc. Since they use a general purpose AI model, what you can do with them is pretty much limited only by your imagination. I also like just having them describe what they can see in front of me, since there can often be a lot of visual information that I would normally miss, and its interesting to hear even when its not useful for anything. The app is updated frequently with bug fixes and improvements, and there is also a mailing list for Seleste users, where the two main people in the company often respond and help people with issues they may be having and take feedback.

To get the glasses, you pay a deposit of $100, and then $50 per month after that, which is much cheaper than competitors like the Envision glasses or OrCam, and in the long run, probably even the Meta glasses. They will also send you new hardware for no extra cost when they release it.

Devices Accessory Was Used With

iPhone

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By Ash Rein on Sunday, April 7, 2024 - 08:54

This could be the greatest glasses in the history of the world and I wouldn’t use them. If they are micro USB, I won’t go anywhere near them. We are in 2024. If it’s not USB-C, then they have no interest in future proofing this device.

By SSWFTW on Sunday, April 7, 2024 - 08:54

I should be getting mine hlate April I was a little discouraged when I heard other say that they are quite slow. Five seconds for a reply doesn't sound bad at all though.
I'm still waiting for someone to do a live demo though. Well recorded but so that we can actually hear the glasses.
Thank you very much for this review though it is much appreciated.

By mr grieves on Sunday, April 7, 2024 - 08:54

How will they end up cheaper than the Meta glasses in the long run? Within a few months you will have spent more on Celeste than Meta and you won't own them. (I am under the impression that the AI smarts for the Meta glasses are free but I could be wrong).

Maybe it depends on how often you get new hardware from Celeste.

At any rate, very good review, thank you.

But I would also love a demo of the continuous mode if anyone can do that?

By Holger Fiallo on Sunday, April 7, 2024 - 08:54

Someone did it for the Meta, it was nice, consider doing the podcast review?

By Tara on Sunday, April 7, 2024 - 08:54

Hi all,
Are micro USBC cables even a thing yet? Whenever I google these, I can find plenty of results for micro USB but not Micro USBC. I've looked on Amazon UK and Amazon US. Googling in general displays results like Micro USB to Micro USBC adapters, but those are adapters and not a straight forward micro USBC cable. How can Seleste provide something that doesn't seem to exist yet? I know phones are going USBC, but it seems somewhere along the line things haven't caught up yet. Namely micro USBC cables don't seem to exist. If they do, please someone point me in the direction of a product page showing these. Or am I typing in the completely wrong terms or something?

By Dave Nason on Sunday, April 7, 2024 - 08:54

Member of the AppleVis Editorial Team

Hi Tara. To my knowledge there is no such thing as micro USB-C; this device simply has micro USB. Yes the ridiculously old and flaky connector that everyone else abandoned years ago.
I still tentatively have mine on order, but not happy to hear this!
Thanks for the review.
I will aim to do a recording if and when I get mine, if nobody has beaten me to it.
Dave

By Tara on Sunday, April 7, 2024 - 08:54

So, a regular USBC charging cable would be the better option for now then. I won't be ordering these glasses in the near future, I want to see how things go first, and $50 a month is a bit expensive. I don't know if I could justify the cost at the moment.

By OldBear on Sunday, April 7, 2024 - 08:54

It would be best if these had a USBC connector, but I have read nothing about there being an easily replaceable battery, and a great deal about the subscription and five year replacement model. So the future proofing is practically irrelevant, and adapters between USB-type connectors are abundant. They are intended as disposable electronics just like iPhones and a whole bunch of, if not most, other electronic devices. Don't be so sure that USBC won't be on the outs for some new connector in the next decade, or there might be some wildly improved battery technology that makes lithium-types and the built-in-battery devices they power obsolete.

By emassey on Sunday, April 7, 2024 - 08:54

The reason I said the Seleste glasses might be cheaper than the Meta glasses in the long run is because Meta will probably release new hardware every year or two, and you would have to buy the new hardware at full price if you want it, while the Seleste subscription gives you new hardware at no extra cost. You can also get one free glasses replacement per year if they break. I could be wrong about that though depending on how often new hardware is released.

By MarkSarch on Sunday, April 7, 2024 - 08:54

Meta smart glasses cost only $299 and do not require monthly subscription
Meta upgrade the devices every 2 years.
If you get any 2 years coverage insurance only will cost $30 from Amazon and 2 years coverage insurance from Best buy abut $90
In long turn Ray/ban Meta will cost $400 in 2 years
Seleste $1200 in 2 years I see a huge difference
Good lack with Seleste glasses

By Gene Richburg on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 08:54

Hi, I don't understand why when people make a device that they don't use the latest standards in wireless technology? I've heard from someone that they do things that way because it's cheaper, but these chips don't really cost that much, I mean last time I checked a wifi chip, it only cost $10 for the chip with at least wifi 5 doulband, not sure how much the wifi6 chips cost, but I'm sure there probably not to much more, I just find this very frustrating as a lot of the blindness products are charging an outragious amount for things, and they don't have the latest tech standards for either wireless and sometimes even the physical cable connections. Does anyone know why this is?
Thanks

By OldBear on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 08:54

From the comments of a person that works for the company reported in another thread, it isn't clear this is an only-for-the-blind type product.

By Orlando on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 08:54

I understand the need for companies to make a profit, but a $50 a month subscription service is not gonna be sustainable for a lot of people! Is there a lifetime purchase safe for like 500 or maybe $1000? Again this is cheaper than the Envision product. But for how long?

By Ollie on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 08:54

I think I'm going to grab a pair of the Brilliant Labs Frames. They sound far more versatile and decouple subscription from hardware. My worry with these glasses is that they are already outdated and once large companies start pushing their own solutions with greater tech resources, economy of scale etc, these are going to be quite a sunk cost. I do do wish them luck, a lot of work has been put into these glasses, but I foresee them pivoting to being a software company when more glasses can run their app. They could, for example, create a far cheaper subscription that runs on The Frames or even Meta Ray-Bans should the api ever be opened up.

As I said in another thread. A year will completely change this landscape. Just think, it was only really a year ago that LLMs came out, now look where we are.

It's an exciting time but my rather boring hot take is this, save your money for now and wait to see what is coming out over the next few months. Competition and choice is good for the consumer.

By Andrzej on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 08:54

I saw these in the video posted on the YouTube Blind Life channel. The problem for me is, even though you can get prescription lenses fitted, there are no light shields on the sides. for now I will stick with my ORCAM MyEye Pro.

On the surface, the subscription plan may seem expensive, but compared to theORCAM MyEye Pro, it would be nearly 7 years before you were out of pocket. In that time you would had possibly new hardware. Also I believe.they will replace the glasses free of charge once a year if you lose or break them

By Holger Fiallo on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 08:54

I prefer something that is for all and not just for the blind. They do not last long and if they do, price is similar to my mortgage. Case in point, iPhone, use it to listen to audiobooks, music,youtube, and so on. Instead of getting a device that just play audiobooks.