iOS 8.1 - Buggy enough to force a roll back to iOS 7.1.2

Well, then, how about reloading a previously backed up condition. I'm pretty sure I backed up my c onto a personal confuser via itunes at some p[oint. What about going that route? is it do-able? How?

IN ANOTHER POST HERE THERE IS A LIST OF ISSUES BEING NOTICED WITH THE RELEASE OF ios 8/8.1 called something like Accessibility issues with ios 8... I think.

I do not employ Braile art all. Apart from that, nearly all os those items listed in that post are mine too.

Double characters when I use my only bluetooth keyboard in whatever app. VO does not read all of the active associated text on the screen as it did before the upgrade. Notifications are not announced as before, if at all, when a call comes in, or a text.

here is a list of what I was going to add to the comments on that post which had over 300 commenets on it already.

My issues with IOS 8.112B411
Voice over doesn’t read the screens information completely as it once did. It forces you to either drag your finger around to find more text or buttons. If you are lucky enough to find the associated text you have to be on it just so or it will not read it to you.

Example: Settings>General>updates, here VO says only Update, it does not say the text below which on my iphone 5c w/IOS 8.1 also says in text below Your software is up to date… as it has in the past.

DOUBLE CHARACTERS are ENTERED WHEN USING Apple bluetooth keyboard. Requires restart… usually. … or that’s what I did after fooling around with the ROTOR for a while. When inside a text message I was sending and the ROTOR choices did not fix it.
BTW checking inside of connected Bluetooth devices under Keyboards, it says ‘2’ Apple wireless keyboards were available. One connected and one not. However this was a discovery I made following the aforementioned steps of using rotor and restarting. The restart fixed the issue of double characters being entered in a single keystroke, temporarily, not permanently. Intermittently,, I have to restart the iphone and with some regularity.

Noticing this 2nd ghost keyboard anomaly, I then used “FORGET THIS DEVICE” to delete the non connected Apple keyboard.

I have only ever had but one anyhow but had thought to get one more due to the difficulty connecting and disconnecting between the iphone 5c and . various Apple TVs. It’s a real chore and just turning a device off is not enough to let the keyboard pair with another active device… at least with IOS 7.2 anyhowon the 5c and the latest Apple TV update on an ATV III...

Regardless, it remains a crap shoot as to whether or not you’ll have to restart yet again to halt the double character input from your Apple Keyboard. I’ll try using NOTES and keeping it open to see if that prevents the issue but it is a REALLY BIG PROBLEM and a ridiculous nuisance.

Other as posted results from that thread here are my issues too.
In the contacts list in App Switcher, . I don’t even get all of my contacts in this list. Just some weird random cache of a handful of my contacts. Most of which I seldom contact..

If there is a caveat to this upgrade/update from IOS 7.2 to 8.1…., it is that until I could pair a keyboard with the 5c I could not properly satisfy the initial setup demands for icloud, apple id, passwords, etc. .

I’m unsure too about the touch typing item. I do it and have been a touch typer since high school and that was eons ago. I’ve always assumed any keyboard default was set to this condition. Otherwise, a sighted person will merely hunt and peck using their vision, so why is there a setting for it, if indeed there is one I can’t find it.?

Calendar – can not set a calendar event either using SIRI, or manually. I can input all of the data, but not save the event.

The update disabled Cell dATA.
It also deleted my voice mail code. Re-enabling one took about a dozen attempts to reset and activate it.
It took several tries to enable the new SPEECH HQ voice.
As I find more issues I will post them.

My thinking is to restore from a backup I made in itunes on a win 7 pc I made a couple weeks ago.
Most of, if not all, of the third party apps installed work fine, as far as I can tell. The majority of issues surround the OEM OS and associated Apple apps accompanying the update..

I have about 7GB of free space, and a total of 46 apps onboard.
Hope this is of some help.

... although I think perhaps I still maybe dealing with 8.0 problems.

I have the 8.112b411 version... and it sucks.

all of the issues you clima are mine too.

Additionally, on a trip to the local VA outpaitient Pharmacy today, I wanted to route the trip and asked SIRI to find it. Siri came gback after several attempts to convey the information thru the quick cut offs using SIRI includes now, and SIRI says, "I found several Drug Stores in your area." as I assume a list was generated too. after a few tries I reverted to using "Blind Square" as it had been input as a fav. I got the address and tried to use Apple's Maps. Maps would not route the trip. Resorting to Google Maps, and inputing the exact address, I was finally successful in planing and navigating the rout for my directionally challenged friend.

SIRI has always found this address/location previously.

enroute, I tried to find out about traffic, and other apps would not switch to Cell DATA even though they were already on the Cell data access list. Trying to toggle the cell data yielded no success. effectively no other app which relies upon cell data when away from wy fy would actuate... despite appropriate efforts to amend the circumstances.

I did say prefviously following this horrid upgrade I found Cell Data had been disabled during the upgrade.

Now no efforts to enable it seem valid for most third party apps, though admitedly, I have not tried all 47 yet... and really, shouldn't have to.

So, Apple, when is 8.2 slated to be released?

BTW... exactly what is the link to contact Apple support and notify them personally about these circumstances?

trust me, I sincerely wish things were not as they are on my poor little 5c.

Toonhead
Title: reboot your phon
from what it sounds like these aren't really show stoppers, just very minor annoyances in most cases and there are workarounds if you're patient

Reboot your phone? … has yet to resolve any of my issues. Period.

Rebooting a phone is NOT always a convenient thing.

The only item on my iphone affected by rebooting is that SOMETIMES it stops the double character entries the apple Keyboard is now providing since the update to 8.1. in fact, rebooting to amend double characters is a crap shoot. It might temporarily fix it, and it may not, and it has not in fact, fixed the issue at all on my iphone. .

…and it occurs intermittedly. Sometimes during the writing, often though, from the beginning.

Rebooting has not fixed Voice Over, SIRI’s new level of incompetency, or some of the other major occurances the latest updates have handed many users.

I fail to see how you can say these are minor annoyances in the first place.

in fact, if it took a reboot to fix an issue, that is understandable. A 'fix' IMHO means it does not occur again. REBOOTING has yet to fix anything since I put 8.1 on my device.

Truth be told, if I had to own a product which regularly required rebooting to temporarily fix a trouble, and the maker did not resolve it somehow, soon or eventually, I’d never trust their products or any of their forthcoming updates again.

Apple is well aware many items of imporper activity exist still with a great many users, though continuing to submit these inadequacies to them with specifics is certainly the proper route to follow, regardless.

No offense taken… and certinaly none offered. Then or now.
I get it. It’s just a phone… well, partly. I’m not one of the I gangsters, nor am I one of the I’ll wait in the rain or cold or heat to get one of the latest releases. I’m a “seeing as I have a phone in my hand, I’ll call you rather than text you”, sort of guy. In fact I’m one of those who had to wait on the Federal Government and used ongoing petitioning to them to get one to help me with acquiring a higher level of independence. This is due to the loss I incurred during my enlistment, which took so very much of my sight. I even had to make two roadtrips for it. One to W. Palm Beach and one to Birmingham, as governmental incompetency and red tape precluded me from acquiring one at the first venue and added another six months to the time frame, winding up with a waiting period of about a year..

So for me, the feature set of the phone IS the phone. Predominately voice over. SIRI is a bit of a luxury, even for me… and other’s like me. Vets or not.

So now, for a time, I’ll revert to being leashed to a desktop. Once more.

Either I use SIRI to send a text, and of late SIRI is well, crazy. SIRI simply doesn’t recognize much of my speech, or drops out enough of it so it’s unintelligible… or I can use the keyboard with any luck at all..

This actually brings up an important aspect. Why, when SIRI functionality is diminished to the point of nonsense and unusability, why isn’t there the province for direct global input into search boxes or engines by voice as an option? A selection one makes in settings which doesn’t necessitate one finding some near invisible icon somewhere within the forrest of other icons and characters contained in the on screen keyboard, that allows speech input directly where text would ordinarily be associated. Perhaps it could be set into the accessibility settings as an option that would then enable maybe no icons for entering text, or for text to be entered via a keyboard, as one might more often employ at home or work? Rather than hoping a text box will accept voice dictation here or there, maybe.

Truth be told I don’t care too much if third party apps won’t or don’t follow suit with this notion either. Apart from some apps which either peruse personal music from a hard drive or a server, or those who merely stream radio like content, or work as a remote interface for another device, I have no use for video content on this tiny gizmo.

Navigating apps whose search engines find locations like Blind square, sendaro Look around or local news affiliates who provide timely weather and traffic reports, etc., aren’t or weren’t syncing up with cell data, and have become useless. Now this exceeds annoyance level for me. If the feature set of the phone is made unusable then it’s just a phone, and there was no need to drop hundreds of bucks for just a phone, or in my case around $40K to $60K now is there? Remember, you helped pay for it.

Of course not.

When functionality of a device reverts or diminishes to levels far below it’s intended or apparent abilities, that is more than an irritating aspect.

It’s sort of like having a sports car which only uses one of it’s five speeds and the AC and Sirus radio work intermittently, or a HD cable box that only provides local channels in SD, sporadically. No one would want to deal with such things, given what is being paid for them.

Effectively for now I got a flip phone that costs most anyone, $600, and some a whole lot more. . How annoying is that? To me, it’s a whole lot of well, it’s more than any minor concern.