Last post. I went looking but there are a ton of posts about face ID. Here's my interesting question. I'd gotten this answer as someone needed help with it. I saw something in accessibility called face Id and attention. Clicking it, I found out there's a haptick to go if your phone successfully unlocks. Here's my curiosity. If the vibration switch is enabled, it does just vibrate, no unlock sound. If the switch isn't on, the sound plays and there is still a vibration as the phone successfully unlocks. so my weird half awake quary is this. What's the point? If the only difference in the phone's or the Os's behavior is a sound is played, yet the haptick is still played, why is there a switch? Hope that made some sense.
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Have a look at the ringer switch toggle
If haptic feedback is enabled both when the ringer/mute switch is on and off, you might get haptic feedback/vibration regardless of whether the device is muted or not. I have not used Touch ID myself, nor am I sure I quite got your point.
Sorry I broke your brain
Mine's not in great shape and for the record, no over 21 substances have been consumed before writing this or the OP. Really though, i understand the behavior of the mute switch. It's harder to explain if you haven't used touch ID or face ID. Thanks anyway for trying? to help. :)
I do use Touch ID, so...
I do use Touch ID, so you might wanna give it another shot.
Maybe it has to do with face?
I don't remember this being seen on my old phone with touch ID. Do me a favor. settings, accessibility, and it should say touch ID and attention. don't go to the passcode part. Look in there and see if you see a haptick for whatever I said before, sorry gettin sleepy, finally! I'll update this later.
Touch ID and Attention?
No such thing here.
The attention part is…
The attention part is particularly useful for those who find it challenging to look at their phone's camera, and it has nothing to do with Touch ID. Typically, to the best of my knowledge, you need to look at the camera for authentication to occur. If you turn off the 'Require Attention for Face ID' feature in Settings -> Accessibility -> Face ID & Attention, then iOS relaxes this requirement for you. It is off by default for those who use VoiceOver.
Ok I don't know how else to explain this
I have absolutely no issue with how face ID works, nor do i have an issue with the attention requirement as i have it enabled. I'm going to delete this thread since unless you are sitting in front of me, no one seems to understand this. Thx anyway
It's a way to tell you it's doing something.
This happens when I sign into my bank, and when I use apple pay, it's just an indication as far as I know.
Design vs Intent
I believe it was intended to be a kind of override. Say you have everything regarding 'Haptics' disabled within the 'Sounds and Haptics' settings screen, and even 'Haptics' disabled in VO, should you happen to be a VO user, you would still receive Haptic feedback when unlocking your device with your face.
No pun intended. . . .
Unfortunately, FaceID haptic feedback is kinda blah, and does (not) really work as intended. At least in my experience. Although it does work well enough for ApplePay purchases. 🤷🏼‍♂️
Also, I love your snark, Siobhan.
Never change.
Siobhan
When I put my phone on silent mode do not get haptic for face ID. Do have it on. Never got it. Happy new year.
Haptic on successful…
Haptic on successful authentication is what you're looking for.
I'm using an iPhone 12 and that option doesn't appear to make any difference whether it's on or off, no matter what you have the switch set to.
I personally keep my switch on silent, but that's just me, but I tried it set to ring mode and it made no difference.
On thurther testing, it does work, but for non voiceover users.
So if you're a voiceover user, this feature is kind of pointless, because you get the feedback regardless.
kool_turk
Haptic on successful authentication? Where? Agree. Does not work. 13 pro.
Like I said in my previous…
Like I said in my previous post, it works, but only if you're not a voiceover user.
Settings, Accessibility, Face ID and Attention.
Scroll down to the bottom and swipe left till you find it.
Two hacticks
There are two hacticks, one for when unlock, or authentication is successful and another one for when you need to try face ID again. When the unlock of the phone is successful, the hactic is... Best way I can describe it, two light taps. And when it isn't, the hactic is a I don't even know what to call it honestly, but the best description I can come up with is, a shake or shudder. As for it being on regardless of ringer or not, this actually makes sence when you consider def and blind people, as an example, just the first thing that comes to my head. They cant see or hear the screen, but they can feel the hactic of the phone. I mean if your a voiceover user I can see why some see it as not useful and that it doesn't work, and I agree to a sirtain point but, it has its uses, too, if you think about it. Remember, voiceover doesn't say, unlocked, or something like that when face ID authenticates successfully, although when it doesn't you do get the, try again, prompt by voiceover, So if you had your ringer on silent, that's one way to tell. Remember, the only way you'd get confirmation via voiceover of the phone unlocking, would be if you pressed the home button before unlocking the phone. If you don't do that however, the phone will just unlock, but voiceover stays silent. Or, for voiceover users, suppose your at a loud place, and its hard to hear voiceover? That's when the hactic can come enhandy as well.
Haptic and sound documentation?
Siobhan seems like she's done with this thread, so let me steeer it in a tangentially related direction.
Okay, so the iPhone makes all these different haptic vibrations at various times, and likewise both the Mac and iPhone make all sorts of different sounds in various situations. Great.
What good does it do? As near as I can tell, there's no documentation. The vibrations and sounds change from release to release just to make sure we stay confused. The only sounds I know for certain pertain to incoming texts, emails, and phone calls. Most of the other noises and haptics remain unidentified mysteries.
I'd love to have a log of the last N sounds and haptics, so when I'm browsing the web and hear some undocumented and meaningless tintinnabulation, I can actually look in the log and see what the sound was and why it was played
At the very least, I'd love a list of sound and haptic names so that we could all discuss what we're hearing and seeing with a common language.
and at the very very least, I'd like Apple to stop changing the sounds and haptics with each release, so that time spent learning their meanings isn't wasted.
Sorry for the bit of a rant, but I grew up in a blue collar working class town, and, well, you all are used to me by now. LOL.
Haptics for FI mean more…
Haptics for FI mean more than yall think. Least to me anyways. Some people use a braille display with their phone and have speech turned off so unlocking the phone with haptics is vary helpful in that regards. I don't use a braille display with my phone but I know a lot that do and that's one of the reasons I'm thinking it could be useful. I can think of one way that I use it for. I usually have my phone turned way down low because I don't like people hearing my phone when I'm scrolling through it at all. So, when I'm in a loud place doing gigs and have my phone turned up loud enough for me to hear, unlocking it with FI and haptics means a lot more than you know. So yes, haptics are helpful. Also, may be helpful to the hearing impaired too. I do agree that apple needs to not change haptic patterns with each release. Gets confusing.
haptic at successful authentication and Voiceover
When VO is on, turning this feature on or off doesn't make any difference, cause the VO haptic overrides the feature. Turn VO of though and make sure this feature is on, lock the device, wake it up and show it your face. You feel the haptic, different from VO haptic. The VO haptic is a double beat, whereas this one is a single beat haptic. Turn this feature off and do the same process, there won't be any nudge. Turn VO back and the double beat haptic is back again, regardless of the status of the said feature.
The VO unlock sound is inconsistent It sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. So if it didn't work when the said feature was on, it is merely coincidental.
So the bottom line: strong VO always dumps the weakling of the said feature with its tough, double-beat. There are couple more instances one can think of where VO feature makes the concerned feature pointless, but the feature acquires significance when VO is off. The battery percentage feature in Battery settings, since VO is anyway interpreting battery status in figures, and anounce caller ID feature in Phone settings, as VO is anyway anouncing it. Turn VO off, and the difference made by these features may be noticed.
I'm on Iphone12 with the latest IOS built. Not sure if newer device would have led to any different conclusions..