Home screen weirdness on iPhone 8

I will go ahead and leave it. But I seriously don't remember this ever being a thing, even when I had this exact same phone before. Like I said, it got passed down to my nieces for several years before finding its way back to me, of course when they needed it forcably reset, and I didn't get it done fast enough, so they ended up just going and getting a new one. Oh well, worked out in the end. Since you have the SE3, can you tell me, does it support eSim, or physical sim only? Also, how is the battery life of the SE3 compared to the 8? Thanks in advance for that info.

Good to know. I never have the best luck with batteries. Battery health on this iPhone 8 says it is at 87% health, and seriously I've had to give it 3 full charges plus top it off a few times. I do have my computer, via PhoneLink app, galaxy watch, galaxy buds and dexcom transmitter connected to it though. Plus wifi is on. Plus it still could be doing a lot in the background. Screen brightness is all the way down. Even my Galaxy S22 Ultra barely gets me through the day sometimes. So even with the upgrade of the SE3, I will probably still need and want a battery case.

I think what really does mine in is the dexcom cgm, but I kinda need that. lol I will probably be disconnecting the watch. I had found an app called Merge that is supposed to bring your notifications and such to the Galaxy watch, but it's really not working, and without the galaxy phone, things like the weather on the watch face are not updating. Kinda stinks, because I like the look and feel of the galaxy watch more than the Apple Watch, but it isn't all that compatible, and I thought with the Merge app I might be able to make it work, but looks like a no go. Honestly, with either Apple or Samsung, I don't use half the stuff that the watch can do. They end up being glorified talking watches that can also do timers and take a phone call every now and then.

Yeah, that's how I do it. Actually, I've tried both ways, and no luck with either. Wondering if it could be an iOS 16 bug? Because I seriously don't remember this happening with any other device, even with this exact phone when it was my daily driver years ago. But I'm just now experiencing it with iOS 16. I'm at least glad I'm not the only one who has experienced this, and also glad that nobody is currently with newer devices.

I do remember being a bit frustrated by it before testing the waters in Android. I was really curious, but now rather regret that decision. Didn't have a lot of bugs that I remember, but the few I had, like the phone and iPad both completely freezing up and becoming completely unresponsive, requiring a forced restart, got real annoying real quick, to the point where switching sounded like a good idea. I rather prefer the bigger devices with face id, but about the only somewhat new device in my budget will be that SE3.

My carrier (straight talk) has it right now for like $179. Not half bad. Refresh my memory if you could. What chip is in that, and what other phones is it in? Since it's only from 2022, I would expect it to still get updates for a few more years, right?

Ah good deal. So similar performance, just smaller form. Makes me feel a bit better.

I kinda like the bigger ones, makes BSI not so hard with these fat hands bro. But The SE is in the budget, not much else is, so yeah, learn from my mistake. I know you were also rather interested in Android. If you get one, even if you think you are completely satisfied with it, keep your old tech a few months, because at first it's new and different, and sometimes different can be good, but then the longer you use it, different becomes a little less good, and stuff that might not be a bother at first becomes one after a while. Talkback lag, at first not a big deal, later on after every swipe, a bit more annoying. Switching languages on the Braille keyboard, to do it, you actually have to go in to a keyboard options menu. Not hard at all, but on iOS you can litterally do it with a two finger swipe up. Also, all the extra buttons cluttering up app interfaces because they haven't implemented talkback actions nearly as well as devs on iOS apps. At first, you think, well that's interesting, and it gives me a better idea of what other people are actually seeing and how things are actually organized, but when you encounter it all the time, you just wanna get stuff done as fast as you did before. Stuff like that. Again, to the point where even this iPhone 8 feels snappier than the Galaxy S22 Ultra. Again, not a bad phone, and Talkback runs better on that than it ever would on a cheapo device, and there are some things from Talkback I do kinda like, but not enough to keep using it.

I can't say talkback is lacking any particular feature. Image description isn't quite as good, but it's there. I kinda like some of the talkback gestures, and will probably end up doing some customization eventually on iOS so I can implement some of those things, but all the extra buttons, and the lag, which at first doesn't seem significant and might not bother some, and I thought I would just get used to it, but I didn't. Plus, there are just some apps that are not nearly as good on Android. I can't speak for all banking apps, but the particular one I use is not good on Android. Accessible, mostly, but you litterally can't find anything by just dragging, it will not read out a single item in the app, so you are forced to swipe to everything. That's just one example. But all the customization is fun, and Google tts doesn't sound bad. I think Google's guided frame probably does an even better job than the iPhone camera app if you do photos. I take the ocasional selfie, and would have liked for Samsung to have that feature.

I did. Actually it was one of the first things I did after getting the hang of Android, gestures, etc. So, a few observations. 1. Google talkback on the Galaxy would crash when trying to type with a Braille display. If I reverted to Samsung talkback, it didn't happen. But I used the display so rarely, and with Galaxy talkback being behind, I pretty much always kept it on Google talkback. 2. Google talkback would work great with, you guessed it, Google assistant, but if I tried to use Bixby, then Bixby would crash, but obviously Samsung Talkback worked fine with Bixby. Just weird and annoying. As for lag, I didn't really notice a difference.

I just wanted to give y'all an update on this. So, little did I realize, but I wasn't even having issues with the last row of apps, but rather the second to last. So half of that row, and the whole last row was not cooperating.
So, I figured for a while I was just gunna be stuck like that, wouldn't be able to do anything about it. But, today I downloaded a few more apps, and decided to give it another shot. This time, instead of dragging apps to that last row and second to last row, I actually dropped them higher up on the page, thus forcing the others to lower. If I tried dropping them in the lower area, no luck. But once I was able to get all the apps I wanted on to that first home page, I was then able to re-order them and such. But the whole first page is now full, as it should be. Definitely guessing that this has to be a bug in iOS 16, which will never get fixed since that OS does not get any more updates.