I recommend using Bing. I've found the answers to be more thorough than what I get from chat.openai.com. That's just my experience. Others may have different thoughts on this.
I believe that without any doubt, it should be OpenCat. Firstly, it is very easy to use and works well with VoiceOver, which can read all page elements. Secondly, it has a very complete set of features. In addition to the regular chat function, it supports creating and editing prompts and allows individual prompts to be set with parameters. It can also be directly added to Siri, making it easy to use through Siri. Finally, it has iOS and macOS versions and uses iCloud to sync data.
It’s not complicated at all. You just need to follow the instructions on the webpage to register and log in to the OpenAI website to get your own API key.
OpenCat plugs into the OpenAI API, thus requiring and OpenAI account and key code. This means that the service is not free (as stated in the Apple App Store description of the app). There is a $5 credit or so available when one first starts using the key. considering most responses only cost a fraction of a penny, this could last for a while. but don't be surprised when it doesn't work any more or you are asked to start paying for responses.
The Bing app, on the other hand, is free. It works very well with Voiceover. You can either enter questions in text or use the voice button to speak your questions. The app automatically reads out the responses in its own voice.
The only slightly tricky thing with Bing is that, as you speak your question, the question is entered into the text entry box. Thus Voiceover starts speaking this entered text as you are asking your question. Similarly for the responses. As Bing speaks its response, Voiceover also starts speaking the newly displayed text.
To get around this I use the three finger double tap to silence Voiceover when entering questions and listening to responses.
Only just tried this out and it's so far been able to answer questions I've struggled to get google to respond properly to and with significantly less effort.
It's disappointing that the amazing piece of futuristic tech doesn't even have labels on most of the buttons though.
People talk a lot about this being able to write code, but I'd be more interested in it being able to find bugs. Let it loose on VoiceOver for the Mac, for example. Or let it find missing labels on buttons perhaps.
Since this thread started, folks can now sign up for google's Bard AI bot. You can get to this by going to: www.bard.google.com
In my opinion, this UI has several advantages over the other chat bot interfaces I've tried. This includes:
- As with Google's main web page itself, the UI is very clean and uncluttered. This makes it very easy to read and navigate with a screen reader.
- The answers are every bit as good as the other AI bots out there.
- One can easily navigate to the beginnings of each new response by heading, so that is great with a screen reader.
- There is a "draft" combo box that is presented with each response. By choosing one of the 3 draft responses, one can see a slightly differently worded or presented response to each query you make.
- There are additional links following each response so that you can see where the chat bot got its responses from if you want to check up on the bot's response and/or see more details.
Overall, great job Google, especially for people using screen readers!
So I can now say "Hey Siri, Siri Pro" then ask a question. The instructions were a little confusing for me. Firstly, I tried to use the Shortcuts app on the Mac - not sure if it's just me because I can never use Apple's own Mac apps properly, or if the Siri Pro shortcut didn't appear. But it was a lot easier on the iPhone.
I had to open the Shortcuts app, then swipe up and down on the Siri Pro shortcut until I got Edit. Then swipe around until I found a text element telling me to paste my API key. You have to delete the text in this label and replace it with the API Key. From the instructions I was expecting a nice options dialog or something.
I also signed up for Bard. The link given above didn't work for me - I had to delete the www. in front of the link, but otherwise it got me there. It took a day before I got the invite. First impressions are that, as stated above, it's a much better VoiceOver experience. The answers don't seem quite as scarily human as ChatHPT but will be interesting to play with both.
Probably not quite what is being asked, but Be My Eyes has some sort of ChatGPT client built into the beta, if you can get an invite. (I opened the app and it asked me to apply but still waiting). I believe you can use it to take a photo of something and then ask questions about it. Sounds really interesting so hope I can get on the trial!
Bing, and all the other chatbots can be used as a sort of AI dungeon master, turning it in a tool for entertainment as well. Bing and chat GPT are better than AI dungeon, who will seriously need to step up their game if they wish to keep up.
The bing app interface seems really odd to me. There is way too much on the page. For some reason 4 finger tap at bottom of screen works entirely differently to tapping at the bottom of the screen. The former goes to the tab bar and swiping about i can never find the ask box. I can only ever find it if i roll my finger around the bottom of the screen. Navigating by heading gets stuck in a loop.
It could do with being simplified.
Web interface for anything complicated. Siri for the throwaway stuff. Or my gpt on the echo. Hopefully bing improves as there is merit in combining a i with something more up to date. Try asking chat gpt for the current date for example.
Problem with all this right now is everything is presented as fact when often it talks rubbish. But very good if you take that into account
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the website
You can make an account and use it free at chat.openai.com or go premium to use the new gpt4 model.
Bing
I recommend using Bing. I've found the answers to be more thorough than what I get from chat.openai.com. That's just my experience. Others may have different thoughts on this.
Poe
the poe is a good one.
even the interface need to be more better
@ming
Are you saying po's interface isn't voice over accessible? You say it needs to be better. How so?
Bing for me.
It’s free and uses chat GPT4. You will have to install the app though.
Bing app
Hi, where do you get the Bing app?
Re: Bing app
Dennis, it can be accessed in two ways:
1. The Bing app itself: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bing-your-ai-copilot/id345323231
2. Microsoft Edge, which, among other things, has the new Bing built in: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-edge-web-browser/id1288723196
Chat GPT questions
Will Siri read the responses? if so how do you get this done?
Voice-over reads the responces.
I haven’t played around with other options.
OpenCat
I believe that without any doubt, it should be OpenCat. Firstly, it is very easy to use and works well with VoiceOver, which can read all page elements. Secondly, it has a very complete set of features. In addition to the regular chat function, it supports creating and editing prompts and allows individual prompts to be set with parameters. It can also be directly added to Siri, making it easy to use through Siri. Finally, it has iOS and macOS versions and uses iCloud to sync data.
opencat
do you have the app store link for opencat? Thank you
Re: Opencat
I've not tested this, but the URL is https://apps.apple.com/us/app/opencat/id6445999201
API key requirement for OpenCat
This may be troublesome.
It’s not complicated at all…
It’s not complicated at all. You just need to follow the instructions on the webpage to register and log in to the OpenAI website to get your own API key.
It claims that GPT4 and higher doesn’t exist.
Any ideas?
Siri
You can change Siri to use it. There are several videos on how to make Siri like that. You just rename her super siri.
Bing vs. OpenCat
OpenCat plugs into the OpenAI API, thus requiring and OpenAI account and key code. This means that the service is not free (as stated in the Apple App Store description of the app). There is a $5 credit or so available when one first starts using the key. considering most responses only cost a fraction of a penny, this could last for a while. but don't be surprised when it doesn't work any more or you are asked to start paying for responses.
The Bing app, on the other hand, is free. It works very well with Voiceover. You can either enter questions in text or use the voice button to speak your questions. The app automatically reads out the responses in its own voice.
The only slightly tricky thing with Bing is that, as you speak your question, the question is entered into the text entry box. Thus Voiceover starts speaking this entered text as you are asking your question. Similarly for the responses. As Bing speaks its response, Voiceover also starts speaking the newly displayed text.
To get around this I use the three finger double tap to silence Voiceover when entering questions and listening to responses.
--Pete
Agree with peter.
It makes for a good story creator also.
Web interface
Only just tried this out and it's so far been able to answer questions I've struggled to get google to respond properly to and with significantly less effort.
It's disappointing that the amazing piece of futuristic tech doesn't even have labels on most of the buttons though.
People talk a lot about this being able to write code, but I'd be more interested in it being able to find bugs. Let it loose on VoiceOver for the Mac, for example. Or let it find missing labels on buttons perhaps.
Google's Bard
Since this thread started, folks can now sign up for google's Bard AI bot. You can get to this by going to:
www.bard.google.com
In my opinion, this UI has several advantages over the other chat bot interfaces I've tried. This includes:
- As with Google's main web page itself, the UI is very clean and uncluttered. This makes it very easy to read and navigate with a screen reader.
- The answers are every bit as good as the other AI bots out there.
- One can easily navigate to the beginnings of each new response by heading, so that is great with a screen reader.
- There is a "draft" combo box that is presented with each response. By choosing one of the 3 draft responses, one can see a slightly differently worded or presented response to each query you make.
- There are additional links following each response so that you can see where the chat bot got its responses from if you want to check up on the bot's response and/or see more details.
Overall, great job Google, especially for people using screen readers!
--Pete
Too bad
Bard isn’t even supported in my country.
Siri Shortcut, and Bard
I just tried the Siri shortcut and it seemed to work OK although not spent very long with it. I followed the instructions here: https://beebom.com/how-use-chatgpt-with-siri-iphone/
So I can now say "Hey Siri, Siri Pro" then ask a question. The instructions were a little confusing for me. Firstly, I tried to use the Shortcuts app on the Mac - not sure if it's just me because I can never use Apple's own Mac apps properly, or if the Siri Pro shortcut didn't appear. But it was a lot easier on the iPhone.
I had to open the Shortcuts app, then swipe up and down on the Siri Pro shortcut until I got Edit. Then swipe around until I found a text element telling me to paste my API key. You have to delete the text in this label and replace it with the API Key. From the instructions I was expecting a nice options dialog or something.
I also signed up for Bard. The link given above didn't work for me - I had to delete the www. in front of the link, but otherwise it got me there. It took a day before I got the invite. First impressions are that, as stated above, it's a much better VoiceOver experience. The answers don't seem quite as scarily human as ChatHPT but will be interesting to play with both.
Be My Eyes
Probably not quite what is being asked, but Be My Eyes has some sort of ChatGPT client built into the beta, if you can get an invite. (I opened the app and it asked me to apply but still waiting). I believe you can use it to take a photo of something and then ask questions about it. Sounds really interesting so hope I can get on the trial!
Be my Eyes is still a few months away
Glad I'm not the only one waiting for that beta. I usually just use bing
Be my eyes is, and always will be a helping tool only.
Bing, and all the other chatbots can be used as a sort of AI dungeon master, turning it in a tool for entertainment as well. Bing and chat GPT are better than AI dungeon, who will seriously need to step up their game if they wish to keep up.
Bing app
The bing app interface seems really odd to me. There is way too much on the page. For some reason 4 finger tap at bottom of screen works entirely differently to tapping at the bottom of the screen. The former goes to the tab bar and swiping about i can never find the ask box. I can only ever find it if i roll my finger around the bottom of the screen. Navigating by heading gets stuck in a loop.
It could do with being simplified.
Web interface for anything complicated. Siri for the throwaway stuff. Or my gpt on the echo. Hopefully bing improves as there is merit in combining a i with something more up to date. Try asking chat gpt for the current date for example.
Problem with all this right now is everything is presented as fact when often it talks rubbish. But very good if you take that into account
Sgpt is the simplest and best
Sgpt it’s hands-down, the simplest and the best.
https://www.macstories.net/ios/introducing-s-gpt-a-shortcut-to-connect-openais-chatgpt-with-native-features-of-apples-operating-systems/