The Zeitgeist 2 Pocket Watch: A Complete Mystery?

By Kyler G, 28 April, 2024

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How goes it?

,i am interested in a talking "pocket watch" from a company in Europe called CareTec. It's said to have GPS time setting, time and date announcements, an alarm, voice recorder, calendar, hourly chime, two types of timers, stopwatch, pedometer, compass, light detector, tactile time functionality, chess clock, and USB-C charging. It seems like there should be a whole lot more commentary on this, but the only video I was able to find on YouTube was an overview in French by another AT company, and I'm not exactly confident in my French comprehension skills. I've read the entire user manual three times!

Thanks in advance!

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By AbleTec on Saturday, April 27, 2024 - 08:26

They're kinda cool, actually. Having thus said, though, your phone can do everything this device can.

If you have questions, perhaps I can answer. I got mine from blindmicemart.com, but that was quite a few years ago.

By Kyler G on Saturday, April 27, 2024 - 08:26

I am a collector of talking timepieces who's been doing this for almost a decade. While I understand that our smartphones are just as capable as these low-tech talking devices, I do not like to rely on my smartphone as it seems as if everybody is doing that these days (which is all very well), but even then, if the grid goes down I won't be able to charge mine :)
All jokes aside though, I can't seem to find any audio demos of the Zeitgeist 2 in English. I found a video in French by CECIAA but that only makes me more curious. I love the concept of having something other than my phone notify me when the light level reaches a certain point rather than a traditional light detector. I also love the concept of hearing assorted jingles along with spoken messages; you don't see that often in today's market. The prospect of having a pedometer function that uses a not-so-common voice also sounds interesting! Besides, 18 alarm tones? Are you joking?? That's more than 2 of my talking watches combined!!!

By AbleTec on Saturday, April 27, 2024 - 08:26

Well, clearly I have the Zeitgeist 1, because I wouldn't have been able to afford--or perhaps I should say felt it necessary to afford--the $370 price tag on the 2. Blind Mice Mart does have the Zeitgeist 2, if you live in the US, & it ships free, in case it's of interest. Obviously if I had won the lottery or whatever & had some spare cash hanging around, it might be a fun novelty item to buy, but no such luck, probly because I don't play lol.

My ZG 1 speaks in a very clear, nice British male voice. It takes a couple tripple A batteries. Whether those things have changed w/the advent of the 2, I couldn't tell you. Blind Mice Mart does have a downloadable manual, but you said you've read it multiple times. Maybe if you asked Mr. Campbell, he'd make a video demo of it for you and others who might be interested as well. BTW, I have no financial interest in Blind Mice Mart.

I can say this--1 time it managed to get washed in the laundry--I think it got buried in the sheets--and it still works. That was pretty impressive.

I myself am always on the hunt for a perfect timepiece--but I want 1 where I can check the time w/o everyone within a block radius knowing about it, I want 1 where I don't have to worry about accidentally pushing and/or knocking off clock hands, or whatever else it is that the device uses to show the time, and I want something that doesn't run out of juice at the drop of a hat. Thus far, that perfect timepiece eludes me.

Good luck, Kyler.

By Kyler G on Saturday, April 27, 2024 - 08:26

I completely understand... timetimes curiosity gets the best of us though. BTW, you mention Mr. Campbell. Is he the owner of the store on Blind Mice Mart that sells the 2? Thx!

By Holger Fiallo on Saturday, April 27, 2024 - 08:26

What about just having an old faction pocket watchthat shows you the time in Braille? Anyone knows of a nice and good one?

By Brad on Saturday, April 27, 2024 - 08:26

watches aren't my thing but I did look at a watch called the Bradley watch, it used ball bearings to tell the time, i'm not sure why but it did.

By TheBllindGuy07 on Saturday, May 4, 2024 - 08:26

And it's rare in its category of not assistive device but assistive by design plus a great thing to look/touch at for everyone. I have an apple watch se2 now but this is always my secondary watch for .. whatever reason.

By AbleTec on Saturday, May 4, 2024 - 08:26

He's the owner of the entire blind mice operation. & he's really a very nice gentleman. His first name's Dale. He does a show called "Cooking in the Dark" as well. A percentage of the proceeds from all their sales go toward scholarships for blind students.

I've heard of the Bradley watch. Like I said, it sounds like something I could knock over. & I'm not sure how well it would go on a petite wrist. Never mind it's expensive. I've always been curious about it, though.

By Kyler G on Saturday, May 4, 2024 - 08:26

I've sent a few messages to try and get in contact; we'll see how that goes but so far I have not received a response yet. It's surprising that more people aren't reviewing these ZG models.

By Kyler G on Sunday, July 21, 2024 - 08:26

Update: I finally got in touch with Mr. Campbell and it turns out the ZG 2 uses Amazon voices (Joana by default), but apparently you can change it. I just got done with a work experience program and am hoping to get my hands on one within the month.

By Brian on Sunday, July 21, 2024 - 08:26

I love the idea of the Bradley watch. Braille watches are too delicate for my clumsy hands and talking watches are just too much noise.

Sadly, if I was going to pay the price of a Bradley watch, I may as well save up for an Apple Watch. Which I will never own.

Maybe one day Santa will bring me a Bradley. . . . 🙄

By TheBllindGuy07 on Sunday, July 21, 2024 - 08:26

I heard from a friend of mine that the bradley watch are not worth paying the full price for but if you look magnetic watch on amazon you can get about the same thing for way cheeper. I saw his watch and it's really about the same thing. While my bradley watch was about cad$400 with import/border import fee his was $200 or something along those lines.

By TheBllindGuy07 on Sunday, July 21, 2024 - 08:26

Why most blind focused website are like worst than most of the regular website? I am not impressed at all about the blind mice website.

By Brian on Sunday, July 21, 2024 - 08:26

BlindMiceMart is a trainwreck of a website. Yet, it is obviously popular. Just goes to show you that popularity trumps everything else. Including logic. 🙄

By Kyler G on Friday, September 13, 2024 - 08:26

I finally did it! I received my Zeitgeist 2 on August 2 and have been using it nonstop for over a month now in a variety of different settings, including around the house, at church, restaurants, day camps, guys' barbecue nights, and even in bed while sleeping. Here are my honest thoughts.
The voice is OK. It uses Amazon Polly Joana as the voice and there's no way to change it, but that's not necessarily a downside.
The sheer amount of information it gives when announcing the time and date is astounding. I don't normally care about how many seconds have passed at 1:14 PM but I'm glad it gives the info. Same is true for the calendar week and moon phase.
The GPS time synchronization is extremely accurate and happens quicker than I expected; for context it beats most analog talking atomic watches by about 18 minutes or so. Depending on how good your GPS reception is, there have been times where the time and date info is synced in less than 10 seconds. Many apps on my iPhone send me notifications daily at a certain time of the day (most often on a specific hour), and most often the hourly reminder on the Zeitgeist goes off at the exact same time.
The haptic time functionality is essential. While it was a bit complicated to learn at the beginning and hard to explain without sounding like a math nerd (which I am not), eventually I got used to it and I use it every time I have a situation where I can't have something speaking out loud.
The compass is an awesome feature to have on the move, although more cardinally inclined sources have told me that I might need to calibrate the compass before use. I don't know if it's because of the way I'm holding it, but I'll find out soon enough.
The vibration motor is a little intense. When using it as an alarm I can tolerate the sound but the vibration catches me off guard and tends to wake me up a little more abruptly than I'd like. You can work around this by changing the vibration intensity in System Settings.
The voice recorder and calendar functions are extremely useful, and the recordings come out better than I anticipated. I use the calendar a lot as I tend to forget to refill my pill containers.
As for the light detector, I enjoy being able to access it with a simple long press of the bottom button rather than opening Seeing Ai and swiping up until I get to the light channel. The light notifier is also an interesting concept, notifying the user when the light rises above or falls below a certain threshold. This is useful though I find it to be a little bit too frequent if I don't set it to a high level.
The pedometer is what you might expect from your average talking pedometer. It doesn't count how many calories you've burned or automatically report your steps after a certain interval, but it gets the job done extremely well using the motion censor.
The countdown timer is a bit interesting. It doesn't give you a countdown in the last 10 seconds like most talking products you'll find, but the "Massage" mode alerts you once halfway through the time period, and again 1 minute before the time is up. I often find myself using this when doing my laundry.
The hourly reminder is incredibly robust; I personally didn't expect the option to either have it tell me the time, beep once or activate a cuckoo clock on the hour. You can also program a start and end time for the chime so extremely light sleepers will appreciate this. I use this daily to prevent me from losing track of time.
There is a key lock and a silent mode. I don't use the key lock but the silent mode is extremely useful when I'm at church or recording something for a comedic voicemail greeting on YouMail (Blind_Dude), since I don't necessarily want the hourly reminder going off in the middle of an important event. It also silences all reminders, timers, and alarms, so I have to remember to turn it back off when it's no longer necessary.
The battery life is absolutely INSANE, and it's one of the reasons I prefer using the Zeitgeist over my smartphone for some tasks. The user manual states that the battery will last for multiple weeks to months depending on the level of usage. To put it more accurately, I received mine on August 2, and didn't have to plug it in to the charger until September 3, with the battery at 20%! It charges via a USB-C cable, and the battery has features in place to ensure that it doesn't overcharge and it doesn't matter if you plug it back in to charge at a higher battery percentage (e.g. before a long vacation). You can always check the battery status with a keystroke, but interestingly, when you do this, it will only tell you the percentage in increments of 10 (i.e. 100% to 90% after about a week or two). Also, you can't check the battery percentage while it's charging as it will tell you that it's "10% done", but I speculate it uses 10% as a baseline.

Overall, this was totally worth the price tag, and I would recommend it to anyone looking to spice their daily routines up a bit without using their smartphone too much.

By Brian on Friday, September 13, 2024 - 08:26

Thanks for updating us on the functionality of this device. Truth be told, it sounds like a fantastic alternative to the overly exaggerated Apple Watch. I would like to humbly add, not to dissuade anyone on the pros of this device, but the Seeing AI app can now be used in conjunction with Siri to perform all of its functions via a Siri request. Such as, "Hey Siri, recognize light". And so on...

Still, this sounds like a great alternative to requiring your iPhone for everything. 🙂