iOS 18 Beta Comprehensive Bugs/Accessibility Issues Thread

we know this is beta one

if beta 2 does come out today that will be good

A couple people were asking about new voices for VoiceOver, and the only one I saw was Zoe premium which was around In the iOS 16 betas, but they have brought back Zoe premium, has anybody else noticed this when exploring VoiceOver settings? you can now use personal voice with VoiceOver, and Siri voices now have presets, like narration, faster pace, even inflection and faster pace, so even more customisation in terms of Siri voices, but other than the return of Zoe premium, there are no more English VoiceOver voices, I would imagine if Apple adds ChatGPT to their products, we may see ChatGPT voices from the ChatGPT voice mode integrated with VoiceOver and other accessibility features. however, this is just an assumption

I may have accidently posted this as a comment to another message, sorry, I haven't been on here a lot. Anyways, I'll repost this as a "New Comment".

Hi, I haven't seen this here and a few others I heard from who have the Beta don't have this issue, but for me on my iPhone 13 Pro whenever I wake up my phone/unlock with Face Id I almost always land right in the app library instead of on my first home page. Even sometimes when I swipe up to get out of an app back to the home screen I end up in the app library and it sometimes takes 3 or 4 or even 5 swipes up from the bottom to get out, usually I eventually get out to my third home screen, then another swipe up brings me back to my first home screen. It's more annoying than a deal breaker, but it definitely is a pain in the neck. I am pretty sure I saw a few messages on a couple of lists I am on where somebody also experienced this, anybody knows what might cause it since most people obviously don't seem to have this problem. I was hoping a new update would resolve it, but updating to developer beta 2 a couple of days ago made no difference and even rebooting is useless, as soon as the phone restarts and I enter my passcode back I go to the app library.

Just watch a video of RCS in youtube. It works well and is working now. Sound affect still have issue. Show a demo of RCS with iPhone and a google phone 8a and looks nice.

So randomly now I have dots 1 and 4 at my two middle fingers. I have no idea how it happened. It was working fine for awhile, but not anymore. I've tried recalibrating many times, to no avail.

I notice this in just about any app that requires activation of controls. It doesn't register links being tapped in Safari, for example, until the app is restarted.

Yes, I've noticed the tap issue too. I'll report.

Regarding the brail dots, I think there is an option in Voiceover > Brail > BSI to switch those dots. I wonder if there is a shortcut you activated? I'm not aware of one, but I'm not aware of many things.

Hello,

When I use the gesture "swipe down with two fingers" to read a text with voice-over. My iPhone starts reading the text but after some lines he stops reading and just says "screen curtain on".
Does someone else have the same problem?

I discovered my screen orientation was unlocked, so I locked it into away mode, and everything's fine

Can you use your own personal voice with voiceover now? If so, I'm upgrading to try it out!!!

Saw a youtube with it and looks like yes. Do not know how good it is but you can play let us know.

Here is a recording I did a couple weeks ago to surprise Denise when she got back from out of town. I will warn you, this will drain your battery.

https://tweesecake.social/@wiljames/112610102772587786

why is the personal voice not available for those outside the US? what about all the other languages voiceover supports? i live in the Uk and don't want a fake u.s accent just to have it working has ios 18 changed this?

Wow! from listening to the personal voice, as well as extra voiceover improvements, sounds cool. If anyone is running it on there main devices, is it normal? let me know.;

Hi everyone. After a bit of fear I have now switched from iOS 17 to iOS 18 beta. Never has a better choice been made! First of all, the stammering or stuttering bug, which I was embarrassed about because it didn't bother everyone and I couldn't make it understand, has finally been solved, even with Eloquence!
Furthermore, the flick seems more stable to me. The braille command mode is crazy, and can be navigated very quickly. Having said this, I do not take responsibility for those who, reading my post, update to the beta and then want to go back, as there are small bugs, such as sometimes VoiceOver goes silent, but just reload it for everything to return to normal.

One last thing. I read about a user talking about Seeing AI, and the fact that it doesn't work. Simply uninstall and reinstall the app, and everything works fine.

have they improved eloquence at all in ios 18?

Yes it is better.

The fact the stammering bug has been fixed, has me seriously considering installing the beta. Will definitely give it some thought before jumping right in, but thank you for what you posted. At least there's hope!

Yes, in my opinion the stammering bug started with an audio change they made last year. Glad they were able to fix it. I'm holding on to it and wouldn't go back.

Wow!! I'm typing this on an older iPhone using the iOS 18 beta. It's awesome having BSI activate as soon as I open an edit field. Only thing I'm noticing right now is that VO is reading everything on Applevis twice. But it's sooo unbelievably peaceful not having to deal with the stammering issue!!

What improvements they have made to Eloquence in iOS 18?

I am hoping eloquence sounds like it used to on the older nokia phones and that apostrophe when reading out what people say is gone away

For those asking about Eloquence. The voice is the same, there are no changes. But for me and others, who noticed a stutter, especially when flicking quickly, this stutter has disappeared. For me it's a big improvement, but of course those who haven't noticed anything in iOS 17 won't notice anything.
If you will, a big change is the audio attenuation. For example, if you use apps like Instagram or Tiktok, where there are videos with loud audio, with this option you can activate the fact that when VoiceOver speaks, the disturbing audio will be temporarily lowered.

ah so the sample rate still the same? not using it in 18 then as the quality far superior when it is used on an android phone that can take it.

So no other changes in iOS 18 compared to iOS 17 in general? all performance on devices are normal?

There have not been too many changes in iOS 18 compared to iOS 17 as of now, we did however get the new Passwords app, and the ability to lock apps with Face ID/touch ID, no major changes to Siri yet, Apple intelligence has not came yet either, however for the last three versions of iOS we have got new apps that have been introduced, in iOS 16 we got the Freeform app, in iOS 17 we got the Journal app, and in the iOS 18 beta, we got the Passwords app, The VoiceOver audio ducking options have been changed, so rather than it being just an on and off toggle, we now have the options for off, duck when speaking, or always duck, for some reason, though, UK eloquence does not have community dictionaries like the US version does, but other than that, that is all of the major changes, I hope someone found this useful

What's the difference on the audio ducking changes?

You can have voiceover volume louder than anything that is playing. You can have it always duck. You can have it never duck that is off. You can have it only duck when speaking. You can also have louder volumes.

RCS is working now, still have bugs but is working. Those nice people who are beta testing let us know how is working.

I assume all the described audio-ducking options are tied in with Activities? In other words, can I have different apps and contexts use individual audio-ducking settings?

I am unable to drag apps on the home screen on iOS 18 beta two. There is no drop app before or after option in the rotor.

I also have the same problem, and I have already reported it: FB14117188. They will definitely correct it.

Guys like I know that rcs should have been there 3 5 7 years ago but it's finally there so just please? And the braille screen input improvements are not nothing. Yes only ipad users will get the most of it but still. I can totally understand being a bit disappointed a bit by macos as I am myself but ios? Not so. Aside AI rcs is probably the biggest thing even if they just mentioned it for 3 seconds or so. And the other updates across apple ecosystem are not minor either. Like apple watch it's quite nice wwhat we'll get.

Edit:
Thanks for the demo of voiceover and personal voice, I will certainly try this out.

Watch ring tones. Also having the power to change tone on the watch is a major big deal and notification sounds on the watch. Now you can not do so. Heard that siri might be improve in general even if you will not able to use Apple intellegint, just the regular siri. Although I would love new voices in English, using personal voice for VO is a big deal. Have a wonderful friend and she has a beautiful voice and will ask her to creat a personal voice in my phone. Wished this was possible long time, there was a wonderful news lady with the voice of a goddess and would had love to ask her to do the personal voice. Now those of you have a wife you can get her voice for VO unless you do not like her voice.

Haha :)

So there is a bug in the second beta where accessing Speech settings (Settings > Accessiblity > VoiceOver > Speech) where you can't access the screen anymore. Settings just quits instantly. This used to be an issue with the equalizer, but that caused the Settings app to hang for a bit, and then crash. Is anyone else having this issue?
I can also confirm that Seeing AI does not open on iOS 18 at the moment.
Additionally, editing the homescreen no longer allows me to drop items, but this interesting Options button appears, which for some reason when I press it, it does nothing.
I've also been experiencing strange issues with dragging and dropping. Once I was trying to drag a file in the Files app to another folder. When I attempted to find Actions, it caused VoiceOver to just crash. I was able to duplicate it, and I also noticed it happened when dragging text as well.
It also seems like some of these crashes also extend to apps like Safari and YouTube. I'm not sure if a certain element type is triggering it, but it's quite strange.

Has anyone played around with Activities on the beta? Onek, it seems like naming an activity is challenging. It takes the first character, then drops out of the text field or something. There's a lag with the header of a few screens. The header should reflect the name of the activity, but if you change the name, it doesn't update. And there are similar problems with changing a voice. The header, which should have the name of the voice, says default instead. And after you've changed the voice and returned to the previous screen, it the button to change the voice is still labeled with the previous voice.

This is going to be a bear to file as a bug report, so I wanted to see if anyone else is experiencing it, or is it just me.

Okay, open (for example) Messages, and then say, "Hey SIRI, what can I do here?" For pretty much as long as I can remember, SIRI would respond with helpful suggestions, like, you can say read my messages, or send a message to Jim.

On the beta, SIRI responds I'm here to help, get to know SIRI at Apple.com. I understand they're redesigning SIRI to add the ability to act more like your iDevice manual, but I didn't expect a step backwards while this development was being done.

Would like to add that I am facing the same issue with naming of activities on Latest stable release of IOS on my 15Pro Max.
It's picking up only first alphabet of whatever I try to type, despight the edit box showing the full-text.
Since this is my first IPhone, it took me a bit of time to get the hang of it. Activities feature sounds very similar to configuration profiles on NVDA. It all Sounds very useful, but since I can't name them properly, I am just not using them that much yet.

Alright, I'll try to formulate what's going wrong with Activities into a Feedback report. Wish me luck.

For some reason, I'm unable to open the Item Chooser, with neither my Logitech K380 pressing VO+I, nor my Humanware Brailliant pressing Space+dots 2, 4, nor with BSI in command mode pressing dots 2, 4. And I'm trying to figure out if this has been broken all along, or is this some new incorrect behavior that even a force reboot doesn't seem to fix. There's no discussion here of a similar issue. Anyone else experiencing it?

Here's the reproducer steps for the activities bug report. Sorry I didn't copy the issue#. Long weekend.

1. Turn on VoiceOver. Using your Bluetooth keyboard, enable quick nav by pressing left and right arrow keys simultaneously.
2. Navigate to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Activities.
3. Select (up+down arrow) Add Activity..
4. Focus lands on Speaking Rate, which seems odd. I would expect it to land on the Name text field. This is only the first of many things to go wrong.
5. Navigate to the name field. It is pre-populated with the text “Activity 1”. Select (up+down arrow) this field. You’ll hear the downward sound indicating quick nav is disabled. VoiceOver goes into edit mode and says, “Insertion point at end.” This seems wrong. I would expect VoiceOver to read “activity 1, contents selected.”
But this is more a suggestion than a bug..
6. Press Command+A to select the default “Activity 1” text.
7. Next, attempt to enter a new name, “Talk Like Evan.” Expected behavior: The name field will contain the text “Talk Like Evan.” Observed behavior: After the T, I hear a sound effect I’ve never heard before, and focus leaves the text field. The resulting activity name is “t.”
8. Try it again, starting from step 5. It correctly changes the activity name.
9. Find the back button just before the first heading, and select it, which returns you to the activities screen. Navigate through the list of activities. Expected: You should find an activity named “Talk Like Evan.” Observed: The activity is still named “Activity 1.”

hey everyone,
Very interesting behaviour after updating to beta 3 of IOS 18.
If you go to the bottom of your iPhone in the middle and swipe up for the app switcher, you will get the type to Siri dialogue.
I'm not sure if this is a bug or not.

The workaround is to swipe straight up from the bottom left corner of your screen and then, you will get the app switcher.

Just tried going to the appswitcher doing the swipe up gesture and I got the keyboard, if I double tap the home button it works

There are now 4 tones when dragging up, the 4th one goes to type to Siri, you have to do it slowly because the 3rd and 4th tones sound almost the same

I noticed a bug o multiple iOS 18 devices when you record a video on Snapchat and send it appears to be lagging for the person you send it to but in my camera roll it’s perfectly fine . Does this happen to all devices or just lucky coincidence that me and my friends have the exact same problem.

Moving apps on the home screen has been fixed. Also the equalizer bug has been fixed, although you will experience choppy behavior when making equalizer adjustments with Siri and personal voices. Come to think of it, I had choppy behavior when using Eloquence as well. They will iron that out, I'm sure.