iOS 17.2 beta four, macOS 14.2 beta4, watchOS 10.2 beta 4 and tvOS 17.2 beta4 are now out with one of the best features ever!

Hope this was fix in which VO reads the time whenever get a notification.

Well, can not see why it is a great feature! When I read the topic title I asked my self what could be a great feature to be added to VoiceOver, and I am honest here that a long list of wishes came to my mind. But Notification Sounds of Apps? Well, good for you then.

After looking it can't be changed on a per app bases but the rebound sound which is that new stupid notification sound can be changed.

What I've always waited and hoped for is the option of turning off notifications in total. Just a simple off switch that shuts off the notifications feature entirely. No notifications at all. None. Don't need them. don't want them, but Apple's been shoving notifications down my throat for years without ever once considering whether I even want notifications in the first place.

Of course, it's certainly possible such an option already exists, and I'm too ignorant to know it. I do know that if I really wanted to, I could laboriously go from one app to the next in a list of several hundred, turning notifications off for each and every one of them. Not going to happen. Not worth it. Apple might want me to go to all that trouble, but I'm not going to sit up, roll over, beg, or shake hands. I'll just play dead instead, thanks.

Guess we'll be watching you play dead then.

Dear Sea Tea,

I'm always happy to share my product-related wishes in a post whose subject is a product-related wish. Your comment doesn't appear to be product-related, however. From what I've observed, the powers that be on Applevis don't much care for off topic personal attack. Therefore, in the spirit of helpfulness, please be careful to keep your posts product-related to ensure the continued constructive quality of our shared Applevis website.

Thank you! smile

Joy!

Bruce

Guess we'll be watching you play dead then, since it is such an inconvenience and a first world problem for you to either

1. "Laboriously go from one app to another" turning each one off, keeping in mind that apps would ask you if you want notifications off at first launch

2. Turn Focus Mode/Do Not Disturb on. But this may be a bit too much for you.

Hope this was constructive enough, friend.

I don't need this personally but it's great this feature helps you.

As for turning all notifications off, that wouldn't be good because then you'd not get texts/calls, but yeah, if you want them off; slowly go through your apps and turn them off.

Hi Sea Tea,

I have 18 pages of apps listed in the notifications area in settings, and alas, do not disturb would silence wanted texts and telephone calls, so I'll pass on your solution, as I imagine just about everyone would. Thank you for your suggestion, however. I'm glad you are trying to be constructive.
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I doubt others wish to turn off all notifications too, but since your subject line was "Personally", that was personally for you too.

Also Focus Mode/Do Not Disturb settings are also tweakable to allow certain messages and calls, if you can be troubled to "shake hands with Apple" lol.

Happy to help, and call people like you out if necessary.

Hi Sea Tea,

Alright, since you don't understand, I'll try to explain.

First, 18 pages of apps. Yes, I could go through them one at a time and change their individual notification settings. I suppose I could spend hours doing that. I dohn't know about you, but for me, That's a lot of effort for little gain. A single off button could accomplish the goal in seconds. I suppose someone like you might rather spend a few hours doing something incredibly tedious and boring, but, personally, I would rather simply hit the off button at the beginning of notifications. Unfortunately, there is no off button. I don't want to receive notifications, but Apple isn't giving me that choice unless I go to the trouble they have created.

With me so far? Single off button good; hours of tedious boring labor bad.

I used the word "personally" in the subject line of the original post for which you decided to call me out because I would offering my very own personal preference about a feature I would love to see in IOS 17.2. Are you still following along with me here? I don't want to lose you, so speak up if you're having trouble.

Next, while it is certainly possible that out of the hundreds of millions of iPhone users on Earth I just might be the only human who wishes theycould turn off notifications with a single button, and while you are certainly entitled to think so. your belief is irrelevant to my initial post, which was to state my wish for a particular feature regardless whether I am the only human out of hundreds of million who wants that feature.

As for focus mode, I don't need it, I don't want it, and I've turned it off. Why Apple has an off switch for focus and not for notifications is a mystery. Want to explain that mystery Sea Tea? Am I the only one out of hundreds of millions who doesn't want to use focus?

As for do not disturb, I assume you are referring to favorites, with which one can permit calls and texts to ring through when do not disturb is turned on. I like that feature. I use favorites for people who are important to me in case of emergencies. They can ring through. However, since there is an unknown number and identity of callers and texters who will be contacting me who are not in my favorites or even in my contacts, 24/7 do not disturb is not a solution.

Now, Sea Tea, I hope you have managed to understand what I've explained at length in this latest post, and I hope it helps you in your struggle to accept my posted personal wish for a new feature in notifications that would allow the user to turn off notifications.

Thank you for calling me out. Your ridicule was pointless, of course, as it always is, and please let me know if I can help you in any other way. A word of advice, however. You'll catch more flies with honey.

Joy!

Bruce

"I'm not going to sit up, roll over, beg, or shake hands. I'll just play dead instead, thanks."

I am calling you out for that comment, not your wishes for a new feature. More choices are always good. If anything I am on your side with that.

"Of course, it's certainly possible such an option already exists, and I'm too ignorant to know it. I do know that if I really wanted to, I could laboriously go from one app to the next in a list of several hundred, turning notifications off for each and every one of them. Not going to happen."

However, until that specific feature comes, Brad and I had given you options of already existing features that could accomplish the same thing. It's up to you whether you want to explore those or continue pointlessly whining.

Also, Focus Mode and Do Not Disturb have been merged for a while now. Since you say you have so many apps, it's easier to select apps you do want notifications for.

Just let me know if you want cheese and crackers to go with your wine.

Focus mode cures all! And ah... Well, Cheese and Crackers with wine? Hmm... that don't sound that good to me. but whatever floats ya boat. Don't drink wine personally.

If you feel good about yourself, then you have succeeded.

Bruce’s rule number one:

Always do what you like yourself. Best for doing. You are the only person you absolutely have to live with.

well,
in the latest beta for IOS.
we can finally change the default notification sounds and haptic patton

Whether it's a feature Bruce wants and is the only one, or he isn't, this is why more then the handful of people need to jump on board and start testing beta software. I realize it is a bit scary, and I'm not suggesting people have an extra thousand plus dollars to spend should their phone brick. but honestly, updating to beta four as I write this. Now, back to the notifications wanting them off at once, I can see where he's coming from. As somehow on my Mac, i had this annoying ask you popup and couldn't for the life of me figure out how to accomplish it. I asked on here, was given little help so Irish temper went to work. I did stop the pop up. However, i was looking for a clear all, type of dialog where I could erase all the websites that had asked permission for notifications. so though I might not use it on IOS should it come to pass, I'd greatly like that on the Mac side of things. Here's to 17.2 Also not brave enough to test my watch on the beta yet. at least if something went wrong with the phone, I have the watch for the time being.

Does not work. Still have issues. Wanted to drop a app before G because the app start with H. Bug. Pain on the neck bug.

Holger, try this. Go to settings, general, then i think it's erase all content. Don't do that of course. There's a setting to reset home screen layout. That puts everything back in alphabetical order. Hope this helps.

OK. I will think about it. Wish they fix it.

Could not find that. Saw something else, OK heard something else from VO but not that.

Does iOS17.2, beta 4, work well together with Braille displays? If I remember correctly, some people upgrading to iOS17 reported having some problems.
Thanks.

Can the option to reset the notification tone be applied to all (i.e., select all), or is it limited to single notification tones, one app at a time? I'm wondering if there's a way to select all apps etc. with a single command, and then select silence as the tone to be applied to all.

Hope that makes sense. If not, put another way my question is, can you set a single tone to be the same for all apps etc. without having to set each individually? If so, is silence one of the tones one can choose?

My understanding of the "Default alerts" setting introduced in this beta is that it applies globally to all apps that lack a specific notification sound, and is not customizable for different apps.

yes, from my perspective the braille display bugs has been fixed on iOS 17.2

Many thanks, Indra.
Let's also hope that the tapping issues--double tapping?--got solved.

hey! guys
please continue report the siri voices for voice over's bug
it lose the voices all the time
and we have to redownload the voices again

Does anyone know if they've fixed things from iOS 17.1 regarding being able to use a ringtone for an alert if we want? I would love to go back to using circuit for reminders and/or calendar alerts, and I have a vague idea for using the playtime tone for something. Since my phone is on mute about 95 percent of the time any more, I don't know why it matters. Sometimes, I wish that we'd still get alert sounds, even if the notifications are popping up on the Apple Watch. I also think it would be cool if our ring tones and alert tones could play on the watch, but maybe that's too much to hope for. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the update when it is released in a couple of weeks.

Yes, Missy. You can now use custom alerts and ring tones again. You're not the only one who wants the watch to have more variation. The text tone, email tone, and voice mail are just a ding. Here's hoping maybe the next watch OS has something.

Now, I'm even more excited about iOS 17.2; it will be great to have circuit for reminders again. As for the watch, I understand that the sound quality would be virtually non-existant, but I can't imagine why there would be a hardware limitation that would prevent the watch from mirroring the sounds you have set on your phone. I mean, if it can ding, one would think it could make the other sounds too. Oh well. Maybe the next major watch OS release will change things, or maybe playing more sounds will become possible on a future version of the watch.

Is there anyone of you have Wi-Fi issues on this beta? The connection frequently changes from Wi-Fi to cellular data.