Apple Releases macOS Ventura 13.3, watchOS 9.4, and tvOS 16.4

probably not, better wait till october. language switching works fine in monterey and perfectly in ios, somehow they broke it in ventura and refuse to fix it. i don't really understand the psycology, arrogance maybe?

macOS Ventura 13.3
Issues that still exist.
1. Voiceover does not see the context menu button (to the right of the Re-Download button) in the Mac App store which has the Hide item. This dates back to I think Big Sur.
2. When booting or restarting, Voieovr loses focus on the password entry when it announces "installer in progress".
3. When launching the VMware Fusion app, a notification pops up announcing a Login item. Other apps that are in the Login list (I have no apps that Start up).

tvOS 16.4
Voicoeover no longer will read episode synopsis when I navigate to an unwatched episode in a TV series.

I'll email apple accessibility as far as the loggin items added, notification bug. If I had to guess though, this bug also affects sighted users, as, well, its a notification we're talking about, so its not just a voiceover bug specificly so, i'm not sure if I should report it specific to accessibility, or is there another channel to report bugs when they're more than just accessebility related?

It looks like they may have fixed the issue where you couldn't change the audio indentation level in an activity. So I've had to put up with hearing the indentation all the time even though I only need it when coding.

So, pleased about that! Now, I wonder if they've fixed a similar problem with custom punctuation sets?

I've had a long-standing Safari bug which I think is caused when I'm reading a page for a long time and it has content updating in the background. Safari will randomly jump to the top of the page. I get it particularly on a music forum I visit and I've always suspected it happens when a new post comes in on the thread I'm reading. It is unbelievably annoying because I can be on a single page for maybe an hour and it takes ages to find where I left off.

I also think it happened when I clicked a link to Spotify - it would open a new tab, ask me to approve it and when I got back, I was at the to pop the forum again.

Well, today is the first time I can remember when it didn't happen - and th first time on the new Ventura.

Oh, please, please be fixed...!!!

(And to go back to my previous comment - custom punctuation sets still don't work with activities.)

When Ventura came out there was a bug with Applevis comments where it would keep reading out the text from the start.
Is it my imagination, or has this also been fixed? I had totally forgotten about the problem until just now, so I'm guessing maybe it's not been around for a couple of releases and I've just missed it..?

I do have a tendency to get over-excited and proclaim things as fixed only to realise 5 minutes later that they are not, but it does feel like this release has addressed a few things which is appreciated.
I wish Apple would give us proper release notes so that we didn't have to always guess about this sort of thing.

The big problems still persist though, of course - VO focus is still all over the place. Text editing is still a disaster. I can't tell you how long it took me to get the "I" in front of "I wish" in the right place. I ended up with three Is at one point and VO wasn't reading any of them out. And then reviewing the text back, I'm sure VO randomly misses out some words and then I end up not having a clue what I've typed.

It’s almost comical to write that sentence, having the ability to edit text reliably really shouldn’t be on anyone’s wish list. Mac OS iOS and iPad OS users have to cross our fingers for another year and hope though. It’s just not good enough, we all know it and I finally had enough and moved back to a Windows laptop. It’s so nice to have a stable accessibility solution but having reliable text editing is the thing I appreciate most. Simple things for simple people. That focus bug could really do with being fixed too. The more time I spend with JAWS, the more apple accessibility feels like something I got in a Christmas cracker and I’m not happy to say that. It makes me sad they let it slip so far. Apple TV anyone. Oh yeh I wasted about £25k on iTunes content and at least 8 - 10 apple TV’s over the years. Yeh I’m angry and i have every right to be.

When you open the information on any movie title, you were able to hear movie synopsis, the rating, the tomato scores, and whether or not descriptive audio was available for a title. This information is now entirely omitted or skipped by voiceover even though it is still visually there. I wish Apple would test things before they released them as a public release. I sure do miss Steve Jobs now that he is long gone for several years. Now he would have never stood for this type of clunkiness or lack of accessibility, he wanted everybody to experience the best that Apple could give them, and he drove his team to make sure that everybody could have a good experience.

When you say hay siri, siri woke up the screen, and would say something to let you know that it was listening. Now all that happens is the screen lights up, but no audio feedback occurs until you hear the sound that indicates that Siri has stopped listening. Please tell me how is a Siri that doesn't let you know that it is listening useful to a blind person who can't see that the screen has lit up and is waiting for your query. I have not upgraded to iOS 16.4 yet. Hopefully this Siri bug is fixed in iOS 16.4. I should clarify that this Siri bug does not occur on my iPad Pro, which has been updated to the latest iPadOS or on my Mac, which has been upgraded to the latest macOS.

I am still able to reproduce this issue. If you enter multiple paragraphs into the AppleVis comment text box, then move focus out of the box and back in, up and down arrow will sometimes cause VoiceOver to read the entire contents of the box, regardless of the text cursor location.

As before, if you do not move focus out of the text box and back in, and instead keep your focus inside the box at all times, the problem doesn't occur. You will, however, hear an enigmatic click sound when you arrow to a line that would otherwise reproduce the issue.

As well as being wrong about the AppleVis comments bug, I was also wrong about Apple fixing the bug where a long page of possibly dynamic content will keep throwing you to the top of the page. It happened about half a dozen or more times today. I've had it a little recently, but it's one of those bugs where you wonder if it's something you've done. Frustrating. I should have known better.

I'm inclined to skip this Mac update. What's in it for me? Unless someone tells me Google Drive is now usable in Safari, it sounds like nothing significant has improved.